On 11/26/2017 10:20 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On 27 November 2017 at 16:54, <agrayson2...@gmail.com
<mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:48:58 AM UTC,
agrays...@gmail.com <mailto:agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:44:25 AM UTC, stathisp wrote:
On 27 November 2017 at 16:25, <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, November 27, 2017 at 5:07:03 AM UTC,
stathisp wrote:
On 26 November 2017 at 13:33,
<agrays...@gmail.com> wrote:
You keep ignoring the obvious 800 pound
gorilla in the room; introducing Many Worlds
creates hugely more complications than it
purports to do away with; multiple, indeed
infinite observers with the same memories and
life histories for example. Give me a break. AG
What about a single, infinite world in which
everything is duplicated to an arbitrary level of
detail, including the Earth and its inhabitants,
an infinite number of times? Is the bizarreness of
this idea an argument for a finite world, ending
perhaps at the limit of what we can see?
--stathis Papaioannou
FWIW, in my view we live in huge, but finite,
expanding hypersphere, meaning in any direction, if go
far enough, you return to your starting position. Many
cosmologists say it's flat and thus infinite; not
asymptotically flat and therefore spatially finite.
Measurements cannot distinguish the two possibilities.
I don't buy the former since they also concede it is
finite in age. A Multiverse might exist, and that
would likely be infinite in space and time, with
erupting BB universes, some like ours, most definitely
not. Like I said, FWIW. AG
OK, but is the *strangeness* of a multiverse with multiple
copies of everything *in itself* an argument against it?
--
Stathis Papaioannou
FWIW, I don't buy the claim that an infinite multiverse
implies infinite copies of everything. Has anyone proved that? AG
If there are uncountable possibilities for different universes,
why should there be any repetitions? I don't think infinite
repetitions has been proven, and I don't believe it. AG
If a finite subset of the universe has only a finite number of
configurations and the Cosmological Principle is correct, then every
finite subset should repeat. It might not; for example, from a radius
of 10^100 m out it might be just be vacuum forever, or Donald Trump dolls.
If there is a repetition, is it really a different universe? What
happened to Leibniz's identity of indiscernibles?
Brent
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