On 9/27/2018 5:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 27 Sep 2018, at 03:31, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:

From: *Bruno Marchal* <marc...@ulb.ac.be <mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>>
On 26 Sep 2018, at 02:36, Bruce Kellett <bhkell...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:bhkell...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:

I agree that the quote does not make sense. But it is what you said.

It does not make sense out of hits context. It is the the “…” which does not make sense.

The real question is “have you grasped now?”

I say that in the context of Mechanism. Then in the math part, I have (semi-) exiomatize consciousness as True, unjustifiable, undefinable, immediately knowable, indubitable, and show how the modes of self-reference makes any universal machine verifying the existence of this.

This is an attempt at proof by definition. All it amounts to is your usual "cat-dog" logic -- the argument that similarity implies identity.

The question is “do you accept that your daughter marry a man who get a digital heart, and later, a digital brain”?

My daughter can marry whomsoever she pleases.

Even a p-zombie?

How would you know?

Brent

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