> On 24 Apr 2019, at 15:57, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List 
> <everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> "Matter" doesn't exist. "Matter" is an idea in consciousness. 

That’s better.

Now, consciousness is not an idea in arithmetic, but it is a truth for all 
numbers having the right amount of self-reference ability. They already says 
that they know things that they can’t prove to others, have a conception of 
time, understand what Turing universality is, and actually have a quite rich 
theology close to the one given by Plotinus and Proclus.

Bruno 

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