On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 1:14:36 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote:
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> On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 2:55 PM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com 
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> *> You know, there are things we call "dictionaries" where words are 
>> defined.*
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> And all those dictionary definitions are made of words, and all those 
> words have there own definitions also in the dictionary, and all those 
> words have there own definitions also in the dictionary, and all those 
> words have there own definitions also in the dictionary.... and round and 
> round we go. Another definition is never going to break is out of that 
> meaningless circle, to do that you're going to need an example. After all, 
> where do you think the people who wrote the dictionary got the knowledge to 
> write their book?
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> *> If we have no way to define "consciousness", we have no chance of 
>> understanding it.*
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> That's not true for consciousness and its not true for anything else 
> either. Fundamentally our understanding of the world does not come from 
> definitions, it comes from examples.
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>  John K Clark
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Where would science be without its definitions? They are decisive in 
knowing what we are talking about! And there's more, much more to 
dictionaries, than you claim. AG 

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