> On 17 Sep 2019, at 09:16, Bruce Kellett <bhkellet...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:08 PM Alan Grayson <agrayson2...@gmail.com > <mailto:agrayson2...@gmail.com>> wrote: > On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 1:02:39 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 4:51 PM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com <>> wrote: > On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 3:54:46 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 9:22 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com <>> wrote: > > > When physics began to give non-intuitive results, in QM and Relativity, > > people when overboard. Now any patently absurd result finds its > > justification among true believers. > > And in this context "patently absurd" means odd, not logically contradictory > not paradoxical not contrary to experimental results, just odd. But as far as > we know there is no law that says nature can't behave in ways that humans > find odd. > > Many "odd" results are now mainstream, but MWI is bridge too far, way too far > IMO. Why don't you just accept that the wf is simply irrelevant after the > measurement occurs like in the horserace example?. Here, there's no collapse, > no many worlds, no need to explain where the energy comes from which defines > these worlds, and so forth? AG > > Except that horses and horse races do not interfere (except in Australia, > where several jockeys and trainers have recently been suspended for > unauthorised interference -- but that is a different matter!) > > Bruce > > I know. I was just being illustrative. But note that Carroll says much the > same thing when he says worlds are created when you make a left or right > turn, or flip a coin (or some equivalent analogy). AG > > And that is where Sean slips inevitably into woo-woo.
Not if you shake the coin long enough. The Heisenberg uncertainties can add up, and eventually you can the two (times aleph_1) histories/worlds. But if you flip the coin without shaking much, that will not lead to any superposition. You don’t need to isolate the coin, note. (Just to prevent a common mistake here too). Bruno > > Bruce > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLRWEhcgisyY22wfpefvxs4P%2BQQzUyks81EgVYTK%2BQy18w%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAFxXSLRWEhcgisyY22wfpefvxs4P%2BQQzUyks81EgVYTK%2BQy18w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/921B1F68-BC4B-4BAE-B9FB-C151E93C7BF1%40ulb.ac.be.
