> On 4 Dec 2019, at 21:04, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/jan/09/soul-dust-nicholas-humphrey-review > > <https://www.theguardian.com/books/2011/jan/09/soul-dust-nicholas-humphrey-review> > > > we do, after all, know something about the intrinsic nature of matter, over > and above everything we know in knowing the equations of physics. Why? > Because we know the intrinsic nature of consciousness and consciousness is a > form of matter. > > John K Clark > > I don't think mind (intelligence + consciousness) is a form of matter anymore > than fast is a form of racing car,
Very good point! > mind is what a form of matter does when it is organized in certain ways. OK; if you want to implement that mind relatively to you. And mind is not much what it does, as what it feels, although here we could decide to distinguish or not a first person mind (the one which feels) and a third person mind (which acts relatively to us, or to some machine). More generally, mind is what any universal or particular machine do (and could feel to do) when given to any universal machinery or machine. “Matter is then explained as a first person plural stable and sharable realities” (usually very deep in Bennett sense). If not, you need to explain more on what is matter, and how it makes some computations more real than some others. Bruno > > > > > > > > > > > > > > @philipthrift > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/edc5654d-2649-4e37-b40a-a6d3a64ae65d%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/edc5654d-2649-4e37-b40a-a6d3a64ae65d%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2gP3Ls5cDSAk_srHkW2bMsEcM99EsTs6xLaaooJBmE5A%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/CAJPayv2gP3Ls5cDSAk_srHkW2bMsEcM99EsTs6xLaaooJBmE5A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/94AECB0B-19C8-4B95-A796-586CC266D97B%40ulb.ac.be.
