On 4/26/2021 11:11 PM, Terren Suydam wrote:
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 1:27 AM 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List <everything-list@googlegroups.com <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>> wrote:However, in a certain sense, intelligence is easier because it's constrained. Intelligence can be tested. It's certainly more practical, which makes intelligence easier to study as well. You're much more likely to be able to profit from advances in understanding of intelligence. In that sense, consciousness is harder to work with than intelligence, because it's harder to make progress. Facts that might slay your theory are much harder to come by.What I mean by it is that if you can engineer intelligence at a high level it will necessarily entail consciousness. An entity cannot be human-level intelligent without being able to prospectively consider scenarios in which they are actors in which the scenario is informed by past experience...and I think that is what constitutes the core of consciousness.Sure - although it seems possible that there could be intelligences that are not conscious. We're pretty biased to think of intelligence as we have it - situated in a meat body, and driven by evolutionary programming in a social context. There may be forms of intelligence so alien we could never conceive of them, and there's no guarantee about consciousness.
I don't see how an entity could be really intelligent without being able to consider its actions by a kind of internal simulation.
Take corporations. A corporation is its own entity and it acts intelligently in the service of its own interests. They can certainly be said to "prospectively consider scenarios in which they are actors in which the scenario is informed by past experience". Is a corporation conscious?
I think so. And the Supreme Court agrees. :-) Brent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/adcec69e-5c78-f355-9d35-a503d8d12d5f%40verizon.net.
