> On 6 Jul 2021, at 16:56, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Tue, Jul 6, 2021 at 4:49 AM Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be 
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> > Many people continue to believe in the God “Matter”
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> Yeah, many people are like that, people such as yourself who long ago have 
> given up on the idea of God because it is ridiculous but love the way the 
> English word  "G-O-D" sounds so much that they refuse to abandon it.


I just use Plato’s definition. It is Aristotle who invented a supplementary 
spurious God along a “creation”. 

Replace “GOD” by any ontological commitment in some fundamental reality. GOD is 
defined by whatever you assume to explain all the rest.

You are the one believing in a mysterious, never defined, primitive 
materiality, and you use it to select some computations in arithmetic to make 
them more real than all of them in arithmetic, but that does not just introduce 
an infinity of zombies in arithmetic, I also confer something not Turing 
emulable playing a role in the brain, forcing the abandon of Mechanism. 

Bruno



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