The stuff I have read, and its not been the stuff of Fox, dear JC, indicates that back in the day Woodward and Bernstein came up with the most of the info out of thin air. This was when I was a solid Bill Clinton voter. You on the other hand must start asking are your sources reliable. Do you attempt to corroborate what is claimed? For example you know I voted from Trump yes? Trump has claimed for 2+ years that he was cheated out of his 2nd term correct? Well, I ask, where's your evidence? I mean its tow years and if the courts won't hear the evidence, so why not go public? You're a rich man and can afford to present it to the public? Evidence please, and no claims. (My view entirely). So if I can ask rational questions, why can't democrats? Answer? Ideology. Ideology can be defined (by me) as a faith with NO God. Take very little on faith, look, as an engineer must, to logic. You want a better 21st century John, rely on technology over politics, Master Engineer.
-----Original Message----- From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> To: spudboy...@aol.com Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Thu, Oct 20, 2022 7:09 am Subject: Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody without a security clearance On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 5:56 PM <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote: > Woodward and Bernstein created deep throat out of whole cloth, and then > attributed it to Mark Felt. Wow, you've served us up heaping plates of nonsense before but this is something special, this is undiluted, triple distilled, extra virgin BULLSHIT! It's been 50 years and history has made its judgment, what Woodward and Bernstein said was almost entirely true and what Nixon said was almost entirely lies. And for goodness sake's spud, Woodward has a recording of Trump saying in his own voice that what he is giving him is top-secret. So you're asking us to believe you and not our own ears. > I hated Nixon, but in comparison to George McGovern, he was better. Although there were other issues by far the principal issue of the 1972 presidential campaign was the Vietnam war, it was certainly uppermost in my mind because at the time I was of draft age and had no wish to be shipped 12,000 miles away so I could slogg through flooded rice fields while being shot at; I knew the student deferment was unfair but I did not hesitate to take advantage of it and I'm glad I did because it probably saved my life. Lyndon Johnson started that war but about a third of the deaths that occurred during it happened during the Nixon administration, and by then it was obvious to nearly everybody that the war was lost, I think it was even obvious to Nixon. George McGovern said we should end the war immediately and just get out, when asked how he responded with "in ships", and I liked that, I liked that a lot. Nixon said we shouldn't do that because it was undignified, ( and it would've been but it's always undignified when you lose a war), and because it would mean that all the American soldiers that have already died would've died for nothing, (and his solution turned out to be cause 15,000 more American soldiers dying for nothing ). And Nixon said the main reason we shouldn't just get out is the completely discredited "Domino Theory ", the idea that if one nation in Southeast Asia went communist every nation would. Well Vietnam did end up going communist as I think everybody in 1972 knew it would but it didn't result in worldwide communism, instead the entire USSR disintegrated about a decade later because communism is an inherently inefficient economic system and provides fertile ground for corruption. The US lost the Vietnam war but today I don't believe we would've been one bit better off if we had won it. You say Nixon was better than McGovern, but was he 15,000 American lives better, hundreds of thousands of Vietnamese lives better, and hundreds of billions of dollars better? > Policies matter far more than personalities I don't like Trump's Anti-NATO policy. I don't like Trump's policy of trusting Vladimir Putin more than his own CIA. I don't like Trump's policy of blackmailing Ukraine. I don't like Trump's policy of lowering the taxes on the ultra mega super rich. I don't like Trump's policy of ignoring a pandemic and pretending we could just continue on as usual and insisting nothing disastrous was happening. I don't like Trump's policy of never telling the truth. I don't like Trump's policy of giving ridiculous and downright dangerous medical advice. I don't like Trump's policy of instigating a coup d'état and trying to destroy the Constitution. Oh, and I'm not a big fan of Trump's personality either. John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis edm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/1076134834.831353.1666308072145%40mail.yahoo.com.
