These journalists of our youth and today never got challenged about veracity, 
evidence, research. Today we know we cannot trust one another so there seems a 
checks and balance for the public. Yeah, the boys lied but did have a basis 
from Mark Felt to build on. Just as you won't ready anything Murdoch puts out, 
my personal method is simply find people who seem to consistently tell reliable 
things that turn out as explained and go with them as corroborative sources.   
It does take some time to identify these individuals, ahead of a breaking news 
item, but we have to start somewhere. 


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From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>
To: spudboy...@aol.com
Cc: everything-list@googlegroups.com <everything-list@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 6:08 am
Subject: Re: The ex-president admits he gave top-secret information to somebody 
without a security clearance

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 7:21 PM <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:


> The stuff I have read, and its not been the stuff of Fox, dear JC, indicates 
> that back in the day Woodward and Bernstein came up with the most of the info 
> out of thin air.

 And yet nearly everything Woodward and Bernstein came up with "out of thin 
air" turned out to be true, how do you explain that? Do you think they had 
psychic ability? I didn't know even devout Trump acolytes, like the QAnon 
looneys, believed that what Woodward and Bernstein said was untrue, but I 
suppose you know more about that sort of idiocy than I do.  Do you also believe 
Hillary was a secret lizard person who eats babies when she's not sexually 
molesting them in a pizza parlor?


> For example you know I voted from Trump yes? Trump has claimed for 2+ years 
> that he was cheated out of his 2nd term correct? Well, I ask, where's your 
> evidence? I mean its tow years and if the courts won't hear the evidence, so 
> why not go public? You're a rich man and can afford to present it to the 
> public? Evidence please, and no claims.

And yet although you believe that Donald Trump tried very hard to subvert a 
presidential election and demand that the results of a valid  election that he 
lost be nullified for the first time in the 250 year history of the country,  
you'd nevertheless be all in favor of handing power over to this creature 
again, never mind that he tried to subvert the Constitution, never mind he said 
if he won in 2020 he would "negotiate for a third term in 2024" because he's 
"entitled to it" even though such a thing would be blatantly unconstitutional. 
It doesn't seem to bother you one bit that this power mad man was trying to 
become a dictator. He failed to reach his goal, but you want to give him 
another chance to do so.
Trump Says He Will ‘Negotiate’ Third Term Because He’s ‘Entitled’ To It
And although you claim to be against  billionaires and for the middle class, it 
doesn't bother you a bit that Trump lowered taxes on the super ultra mega rich 
and tried to reduce medical benefits for the middle class and poor. You claim 
your top priority is avoiding nuclear war, and yet you'd be all in favor of 
making Commander In Chief of the most powerful military force in the world a 
man who is ignorant of world affairs because he would rather watch Fox News and 
American Idol than read his presidential briefing books each morning. Your 
political positions are hopelessly self-contradictory.    

>look, as an engineer must, to logic. 

Good advice, and I logically deduced that the horror of Hillary Clinton's email 
server is a pretty minor horror compared to the USA turning into a right wing 
banana republic that benefits only the corrupt and the super rich.  
  John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
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