On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 7:01 AM 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> @Quentin @Stathis. That's where the whole magical belief in AI comes from,
> from believing that you are robots. Well.. breaking news: you are not! You
> are God. "Brain" is just a picture that you as God dreams in this dream. It
> doesn't actually exist.
>
Maybe so. But if it is true that our brains are just part of the dream,
then how do you account for the seeming one-way causality between the brain
and the mind? Brain damage, drugs, transcranial magnetic stimulation, etc,
all give credence to the existence of the brain, and by the same token all
those examples are difficult to explain from the idealist perspective
you're advocating for.
You can say that's all part of the dream, but that's an answer that stops
all further questions. The "hard problem" of idealism is: why does the
dream of God appear to be so lawful and ordered? Why does the dream
necessitate things like brains that appear to have causal influence on our
consciousness?
Terren
> On Tuesday 9 July 2024 at 11:24:45 UTC+3 Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 9 Jul 2024 at 18:04, 'Cosmin Visan' via Everything List <
>> everyth...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> lol ? By knowing that all AI does is to follow deterministic
>>> instructions such as
>>>
>>> if (color == white) {
>>> print ("Is day");
>>> } else {
>>> print ("Is night");
>>> }
>>>
>>> There is no reason involved. Just blindly following instructions. Do
>>> people that believe in the AI believe that computers are magical entities
>>> where fairies live and they sprout rainbows ?
>>>
>>
>> This is what humans do also: their brains follow deterministic rules, and
>> it results in the complex behaviour that we see.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Stathis Papaioannou
>>
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