I don't care what my statements sound like. It's about the argument. I'm 
not making statements like "superintelligence is around the corner", in 
which case the burden of proof lies with those hyping those statements. The 
exchange with Brent is instructive: can a human level intelligence be 
separated from its arguable 3.5 billion year history? Wouldn't that have to 
be accounted for? 

If the current state of development is any indicator, where they keep 
enlarging the mathematical linguistic context which informs the response, 
then that's a lot of data for just one AI, even if you argue that early 
stages of the planet are not necessary. And then superintelligence demands 
something like "can accomplish arbitrary tasks/problems much better than a 
human and/or all humans". The only phenomenon that has reached that level 
that we have evidence for is the development of civilization and science by 
billions of lifeforms reaching humans over, taking your figure, 500 million 
years. 

And to demonstrate that somebody is on the path towards modelling and/or 
surpassing that, you'd need to show how. I not sure adding 
verbal/mathematical memory suffices. Note I have never denied that AI could 
become incredibly competent at domain specific tasks. It's doing so. But 
superintelligence, if there even were consensus on what that is... is a 
much taller order.

On Monday, September 30, 2024 at 2:34:34 PM UTC+2 John Clark wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 30, 2024 at 7:54 AM PGC <multipl...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> *> Despite marketing efforts hyping superintelligence around the corner, 
>> advanced reasoning abilities etc. I don't see much more than folks beating 
>> disingenuous benchmarks by modifying training sets, memory, and all manner 
>> of parameters, specific to domain of benchmark being tested.*
>
>
> *It sounds like whistling past the graveyard to me ...... but whatever 
> helps you get through the day.  *
>  
>   John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>
> hgt
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