Matt, Jim,

I feel your pain, and I have only 1 MAC to connect to our network!

I agree it has gotten harder from OS9 to OSX.

<<sigh>>

themolk.  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matthew Joyce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, 8 July 2004 10:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Macs, Microsoft Entourage and SBS2003
> 
> 
> Same here Jim.
> It's very frustrating to have to give such mixed messages 
> about a simple volume connect.
> We have OS9.2 as well, which makes things more complex as we 
> still have AppleTalk installed for them.
> 
> Other problems we have are differences with filename lengths 
> and application extensions.
> 
> By far the most annoying issue is OS9.2 and OSX changing 
> passwords for AD accounts.
> I would be happy to take part in any tests needed to get a 
> definitive client/protocol/authentication/server matrix.
> 
> I used to be more open minded about supporting multiple OSs, 
> but imo things are getting worse.
> OS9 & NT4 works better then OSX and AD/2k.
> 
> I'm looking to reduce the Mac count we have, they just aren't 
> designed for corporate 'standardised' environments.
> 
> Sorry for ranting.
> 
> 
> > 
> >  
> > Ed covered the POP issue.....
> > 
> > On your connection to the server issues, some doing via IP, 
> some via 
> > smb.....welcome to my world. It stinks. I can give you some 
> hints, I 
> > am fighting the same issues perhaps we can find something 
> together. It 
> > isn't AD/Authentication, imho.
> > Mac to Windows Server is a straight challenge response. The 
> issue is 
> > name resolution from what I see, but darned if I can find 
> the problem. 
> > Got DNS on the same switch as the Macs, tried host files on the 
> > Macs....it moves from Mac to Mac.....I stopped looking at 
> it and just 
> > educated the 10 Mac users on the different ways to connect and told 
> > them in the event of a failure one of the other methods would work.
> > 
> > We have had the best luck with command K and ip addresses. 
> I gave they 
> > users a doc that mapped the IP to server names to help them out.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP]
> > 
> > Subject: RE: Macs, Microsoft Entourage and SBS2003
> > 
> > Entourage is a POP or IMAP client.  If you're using POP, 
> then there is 
> > no way for Entourage to connect to the Sent Items folder of the 
> > mailbox due to the limitations of the protocol.
> >  POP simply pulls mail from the Inbox.
> > 
> > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
> > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
> > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!(tm)
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:On Behalf Of David Stark
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:16 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Macs, Microsoft Entourage and SBS2003
> > 
> > I have been struggling with our new SBS2003 installation and the 
> > associated idiosynchrocies of the Mac in a SBS2003 world.
> > All Macs are running Mac OSX 10.3.4 and Office v.X
> > 
> > Some questions:
> > When sending mail via Entourage, the mail goes to the 
> �POP3� outbox, 
> > not the outbox in the Exchange account. Is this normal?
> > 
> > Authentication issues to the server are varied. Some users can 
> > authenticate using Apple+K, entering the IP address of the 
> server, and 
> > entering user name and password. But a couple of users cannot, they 
> > must either use smb://ipaddress, or through 
> > Network/DomainName/ServerName to connect. I am pretty sure 
> this is an 
> > Active Directory/Authentication issue.
> > 
> > I appreciate everyones assistance.
> > 
> > David Stark
> > --
> > Techpro Networks, LLC
> > Anchorage Alaska
> > 907.229.3370
> > 
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