I didn't want to leave this hanging, but I was planning on giving my Exchange server a kick tonight to see if I could get the Remote Agent to start playing. When I got in today, I saw that last nights backup ran in just over an hour (21.5 gig's), no changes have been made to any server.... I moved the rest of our 5.5 users to our 2K3 server tonight, the backup is running right now and getting ~ 473 MB/Min through put. I will just put this up as option #1; It just gets that way. I would love to know why this happened, and why it stopped, but off to more important things like ISA2K4 and OWA. Thanks for all the pointers. Jeff
-----Original Message----- From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 --> Ex2K3 Migration + Veritas On #1; Backup Exec can be that way. :-) On #4; just because your tape is streaming OK on other servers doesn't mean it will work as well with exchange. The data file sizes can play havoc with the streaming. I do backups to disk and then copy jobs to tape. Goes much faster and the local disk-to-tape streaming is much more efficient. You need DAS with adequate capacity, though. My 15 gig IS streams to disk in a little less than 2 hours, and the DAS write to tape takes about the same. Restore from the disk file is MUCH faster, though. On #6; CL is DISabled? I made a mistake in my previous post; CL should be ENABLED during the moves, not DISabled. Disabling CL keeps all the logs until a backup is performed; that's where a huge amount of logs will come from. Check your logfile drive and see what's there... I tend to perform moves with CL enabled, then disable CL, stop and restart the store, and then perform a backup. Better recoverability. ********************** Charlie Kaiser MCSE, CCNA Systems Engineer Essex Credit / Brickwalk 510 595 5083 ********************** > -----Original Message----- > From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 1:41 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 --> Ex2K3 Migration + Veritas > > Thanks > 1) I will try that, I don't know why it would have went nuts, but I > will give it a try. > 2) No shadow copies selected, and shadow copy is not enabled on that > server. > 3) Had not even thought of that one (bangs head on > desk...stupid...stupid...stupid...). > 4) The tape is getting between 185 and 275 M/min on the other servers > in the backup set. > 5) No, I have been moving X users, then backing up the server, then > moving x users, etc. I will bounce the system tonight before I move > any users just to see what happens. > 6) I just verified that there is no circular logging on the storage > group. > > Thanks, I was going to just deal with this until after I had moved all > the users, but since we are still running the backup job from last > night I guess I am going to have to do something now. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 4:26 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 --> Ex2K3 Migration + Veritas > > I'd try a few things. > 1. Reinstall the BE agent, making sure it's the same version as the > server product (I've seen updates that get this mismatched). > 2. Go through and recreate your backup selection list for the server. > Check to make sure shadow copy components is unchecked (Veritas has a > technote out about this; I don't recall it offhand...) and that the > correct items have been selected and the correct method (full) and > source and destination locations are correct. > 3. Crank up the logging on BE. > 4. Do a backup to disk if you have space to isolate a tape write > problem from a network problem - streaming large files can be a > problem for some tape drives. I've seen driver/firmware updates double > the tape speed, and the old drivers were "working fine a few days > ago". > 5. Have you stopped and restarted the store since the mailbox moves? > 6. Look at your transaction logs. Is circular logging on or off? When > moving mailboxes, if circular logging is on, your transaction logs > will increase in size exponentially (I found that they would fill my > disk if I moved too many at once without a backup in between; I turned > off circular logging for the moves). Your logs might be as big as your > DB (or bigger). If you turn off circular logging for the mailbox > moves, stop and restart the store. > > See if any of that helps, especially #6... > > ********************** > Charlie Kaiser > MCSE, CCNA > Systems Engineer > Essex Credit / Brickwalk > 510 595 5083 > ********************** > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 12:28 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 --> Ex2K3 Migration + Veritas > > > > 1) Yes, these backups were all running at about 230M/min before the > > 1st batch of moves. > > 2) No, the move is completed about 3 hours before the > backup kicks off > > 3) We are running NAV for windows, but have all the > \exchange folders > > excluded from the real-time scan. The system has Trend for > exchange > > and it's not having any problems with the move. > > > > The move works great, it just backing up the store after > the move has > > been completed that is causing the problem. I was backing up about > > 11gigs in just over 2 hours. After I completed the 1st > round of moves > > the backup was 15gigs in 12 hours. The only change was > that I moved > > some users from server > > 1 to server 2. I expected the mailbox bloat, but the > drastic increase > > in backup time was quite a shocker. > > > > Thanks > > Jeff > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Charlie Kaiser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:51 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Ex 5.5 --> Ex2K3 Migration + Veritas > > > > 1. Have you verified that NIC and switch ports are set to 100/full? > > This can make a huge difference; auto/auto results in much slower > > transfers. > > 2. Is your move mailbox work going on at the same time as > the backup? > > It's not clear from your post. > > 3. What antivirus platform are you running and is it scanning the > > files as they are moving? > > > > ********************** > > Charlie Kaiser > > MCSE, CCNA > > Systems Engineer > > Essex Credit / Brickwalk > > 510 595 5083 > > ********************** > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Waters, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 11:12 AM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: Ex 5.5 --> Ex2K3 Migration + Veritas > > > > > > I am in the middle of migrating our users from our 5.5 > > server to our > > > new 2K3 server. Before the migration our backups were > > running about > > > 230M/Min, since I have started doing the move mailbox > > wizard our back > > > times are running around 15M/Min. I have started and stopped the > > > Remote Agent on the server and that has not helped. I have not > > > stopped and restarted the system, I was hoping to avoid > > that step. 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