My pleasure - I can't guarantee any changes because I no longer work on the team, but I know who to provide your feedback to.
Regarding the POP3, it sounds like you've got two issues - one is that it's difficult to understand in the new UI and the other is that the difficulty has prevented you from being able to configure and use it. I'm no POP3 guru, but have you tried using PowerShell to configure SSL for your VIP users? Actually, you should verify that you can run the "test-POPConnectivity" cmdlet with the appropriate switch to test SSL (-ConnectionType:SSL). If there are any configuration issues it will tell you what you need to do to fix them. I'm very interested in hearing your nomenclature and PowerShell concerns, but I can tell you that every concern you have regarding Public Folders has probably been voiced a thousand times - some by myself. ;-) -Chris -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Duro Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:05 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 and Hidden Distribution Lists Thank you, Chris, I appreciate that. Well, let's start with this thread: can't hide a distribution list any more? This is typical of many things that you could do before, but can't now. A new product is supposed to add new capabilities, but why take away existing capabilites. That is the heart of my complaint. Item. POP3 was deprecated. Why? Because it's fast, direct, and effective? OK, so it's not a security champ, but I'm not convinced that Outlook Anywhere is all that secure. But regardless, there are still a LOT of clients that rely on POP3 and that will need to continue relying on it for a while. Item. So POP3 is deprecated, but did you have make the POP3 settings dialog (which wasn't even available until SP1 ) incomprehensible? Look at the Authentication tab -- there's no mention of SSL. All it mentions is TLS. So is SSL subsumed under TLS, or is it a separate item that's been omitted? Compare the Authentication tab on 07 with the clear, easy tab in 03. I've been running POP3 for 11 years, and now for the first time, I can't get my VIP users to connect with POP3. Please don't think this is all about POP3, I'm just starting with that and don't have time now to go to other items, like nomenclature, Power Shell, Public Folders, etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 7:29 AM Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 and Hidden Distribution Lists Hi Albert - This thread is as good as any. I worked on Exchange 2007 and I'd love to hear about the features that you feel are "horribly difficult or impossible." I may not be able to help you sort out your issues on all of them, but I can certainly gather your feedback and make sure the team is aware of it. Thanks, Chris -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert Duro Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 and Hidden Distribution Lists How about creating a fictional user 'MyHiddenList1' who's hidden and forwards by rule to the secret members? Of course it wouldn't be practical for a substantial number of users. BTW, I keep getting stunned by how many ways Exchange 07 makes life more difficult for us. The Exchange team seems to have gone positively out of its way to make nearly every feature of the product horribly difficult or impossible. Or, maybe it's just that they released the product a year or two before it was finished. But that should be another thread, or am I the only one? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dumke, Jane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 1:15 PM Subject: Exchange 2007 and Hidden Distribution Lists Since Exchange 2007 no longer has hidden distribution lists this causes a problem for us. We have several thousand lists that the membership is hidden due to FERPA concerns. But, we still want them displayed in the Outlook Address Book. A colleague suggested we put the DLs into a single OU. Then on that OU we remove the permissions for Authenticated Users and add permission for our Faculty group. This works by hiding the entry for the distribution lists in the OU from the non-Faculty, but it puts a blank spot in the address book where the entry should be for non-Faculty. If I could somehow tell the GAL not to put the entries for the DLs in the restricted OU into the address book that would be the ideal solution. I could then create a bunch of "front-end" lists that are normal and appear in the address book, but each have a single member consisting of the hidden DL in the restricted OU. So does anyone have an idea of what can be done to tell the GAL to skip an entire OU? MyFrontEndList1 Member: MyHiddenList1 MyFontEndList2 Member: MyHiddenList2 MyHiddenLists are in the '\All Groups\Distribution Lists\Hidden DLs' OU. MyFrontEndLists are in the '\All Groups\Distribution Lists' OU. 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