Forcing the proof of the negative is a good way to get rid of people,
though!
Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Tech Consultant
Compaq Computer Corporation
All your base are belong to us.
-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Meunier
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:50 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
Two comments, neither of which will immediately solve your problem[1]:
1. You're saying that you have a MAPI client installed on your Exchange
server[2]? Generally considered A Bad Idea.
2. Nobody will touch it until you prove that the script isn't causing
the problems? It's generally considered a logical fallacy to put the
burden of the argument on proof of a negative. i.e. Prove that
breathing DOESN'T cause cancer... You can't. Everyone who ever caught
cancer has drawn breath. You can't have a valid control group until
they back off their unreasonable stance.
-tom
[1] But in case one of them does, can I have a floor wax[3] gift
certificate?[4]
[2] "... when I open this room from the server where we configured the
script..."
[3] New Shimmer! It's a floor wax AND a dessert topping!
[4] Mike, I hope you have a Ben & Jerry's one for me. They feed ya this
Blue Bell stuff in Texas...ewww
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boehm, Diane M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Posted At: Thursday, August 23, 2001 03:19 PM
> Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
> Conversation: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
> Subject: RE: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
>
>
> I know that, but I am not in charge of clients or training.
> This has been a
> pet peeve of mine for over a year, but no one will touch it
> until we can
> prove that the script isn't causing all the problems. And
> why would this
> affect only this one room and not the other 49? I know users
> who look at
> the calendar this way on the other rooms and this is the only
> room that we
> see mismatched meetings between the server and the client.
>
> I have also created a brand new profile for this room on my
> workstation and
> opened the room on my workstation and I see exactly what we
> see when we do
> file, open other user's. The place that it is wrong is when
> I open this
> room from the server where we configured the script, and this
> view is where
> the requests are determined if they are accepted or not. So
> the meetings
> aren't getting written to this view, so multiple meetings get
> booked for the
> same time, but can only be seen from the user or another client.
>
> Diane
>
> Diane Boehm
> SC Johnson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Semiglia, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:10 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: FW: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
>
>
> FYI Don't let the users open the rooms using file -> open ->
> other users
> folder. This can corrupt the f/b time on the mailbox/room.
>
>
> Michael Semiglia
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boehm, Diane M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:47 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
>
>
> We have run /cleanfreebusy on this room almost every day
> since Feb. and it
> hasn't fixed it. Nothing else has changed and all the rooms
> are configured
> the same on this one server. Anything else anyone can think of????
>
> Diane
>
> Diane Boehm
> SC Johnson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1.262.260.5330
>
> "There are seldom good technological solutions to
> behavioral problems" - Ed Crowley, Compaq
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:40 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
>
>
> Every once in a while I've had to open up the conference room
> mail box with
> the /cleanfreebusy switch. It usually cures similar problems.
> On one very
> rare occasion, I had to completely remove and reinstall the Autoaccept
> script-- I forget the details on why, though. It might have
> been around the
> time I switched servers and I didn't add the perms to the
> event service
> folder.
>
> Mike Morrison
> NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
> Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Boehm, Diane M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:53 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
>
>
> Since we are on the topic of the auto accept script, has
> anyone see this
> issue while using the script.
>
> We have one room, out of 50, that when a client booking the
> room opens the
> calendar using file, open other user's, sees the meetings
> that have been
> booked. But when the calendar is opened on the server, the
> same location we
> used to configure the auto accept script for this room, we
> see only a few of
> the meetings that have been booked for the room. What then
> happens is a
> client will book the room and the meeting will be accepted
> and will never
> appear on the calendar on the server, so another client books
> the room for
> the same time as the first client, and they are both
> accepted. Because the
> free/busy isn't updated for 15 minutes, there could be
> clients seeing that
> the room is open when it really isn't and book the room and
> the meeting gets
> accepted anyway.
>
> I just want to know if anyone else has seen this problem. Is
> anyone else
> out there that has 4500 clients in one site, multiple servers
> with at least
> 50 conference rooms set up to use auto accept? If anyone has
> sound advice
> to fix this or a workaround until we can get it fixed, it
> would be greatly
> appreciated. TIA
>
>
> Diane
>
> Diane Boehm
> SC Johnson
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 1.262.260.5330
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:57 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
>
>
> I don't know why you would want to do without it... it's easy
> enough to
> configure, it has the patented Ronco "Set it and forget it!"
> feature set,
> and achieves the functionality that you want. I've been
> running it for a
> couple of years here, with very few problems. Many others on
> the list (with
> a couple of exceptions) are doing the same thing. It really
> is the simplest
> way to accomplish what you are going after.
>
> Mike Morrison
> NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
> Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
>
> This has been a (non-)paid advertisement for the Auto Accept script!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curry, Kristin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:28 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
>
>
> Thanks Mike - I realize that was an option but was hoping to
> do without!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Morrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 8:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 &
> permissions
>
> We use the AutoAccept script at www.exchangecode.com. Works
> like a champ,
> and allows us to set the calendar permissions for the
> conference rooms to
> read only for users.
>
> Mike Morrison
> NT/SMS/Exchange Administrator
> Ben & Jerry's Homemade, Inc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curry, Kristin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 4:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: auto booking conf. rooms w/ Outlook 2000 & permissions
>
>
>
> Quick question regarding permissions and direct booking Conference
> Room/Resources with Outlook 2000:
>
> Outlook 2000 requires Author permissions on the
> Resource Calendar to
> do direct booking. This part works great. But with Author
> permissions,
> they can also still use File, Open Special to book a meeting on top of
> another meeting - resulting in conflicts & double-bookings.
> Yikes! So..I
> thought I'd take off the "View" permissions but then users
> can't at least
> see the meetings are already booked in the room other than just the
> free/busy.
>
> So...how are you configured to Direct Book conf. Rooms.
> with Outlook
> 2000 without compromising permissions (and double-bookings)?
> Or do you
> still use the notorious "Delegate" mailbox that auto accepts
> instead of
> direct-booking?
>
> Thanks for any ideas!
> Kristin
>
>
> Kristin Curry
> Systems Engineer, MCSE
> Enterprise Server Group - Best Buy Co., Inc.
> Direct: 952-324-0787
> E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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