Jon, Space management and server growth is something that I'm very interested in, as it has a very real effect on my day to day management strategies. I'm vaguely familiar with Roger and the work he's done (something to do with "mergers and acquisitions" for Peregrine, I believe) and I was wondering if you could clarify your experience in the Exchange community so that we can draw a frame of reference?
Gary -----Original Message----- From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 19:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange That's quite a leap, to say that offline maintenance is causing 2 or 3 mailboxes out of 1200 to be unable to respond to specific meeting requests, even though it's been running for years without a single problem. Might want to reconsider your logic on that one -- there's not a shred of evidence that suggests it's a "direct result." :) The main reason we do offline defragging every 6 months is because our store size is NOT constant, not by a long stretch. Our organization has specific needs and usage trends that cause a great deal of unallocated space to pile up from time to time. Historically we've been unable to extend the physical space on the servers due to financial restraints, so we've been forced to make do with the limited space by compacting the database from time to time. Thankfully, this paradigm is changing around here so hopefully we can get some new space and forget about it altogether. I was really more interested in hearing the other arguments just to satisfy my own curiosity. Thanks for everyone's response! Jon > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 2:46 PM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange > > > Seeing as the problem you're experiencing is most likely the > direct result of one of your offline database management > practices, you might want to change your thinking on it. > > The only time I've ever seen a good reason to do them is > following a large scale change on a server - like migrating > 30GB of user data off it. > > Exchange does a phenominal job of self-managing the database. > Better than you can do, with few exceptions. > > Take the compacting process - you do it every 6 months > (IIRC). Why? I'd bet that the store hits a relatively > constant size at the end of that 6 month period, and all > things considered, the amount of white space stays relatively > consistent. So, in a nutshell, you're doing something that > has no upside, yet has the very real possibility of causing damage. > > Roger > ------------------------------------------------------ > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > Sr. Systems Administrator > Peregrine Systems > Atlanta, GA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jon Butler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:29 PM > > To: Exchange Discussions > > Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange > > > > > > I'm interested in hearing some sound arguments on why offline > > maintenance should *not* be performed ... I've heard/read quite a > > few people cringing > > about it, but can never back it up. I've been doing it for > > years without a > > hitch; I think as long as the proper precautions are taken > and proper > > trending and planning is performed instead of just defragging > > willy-nilly, > > it's a pretty safe thing to do. I'm interested in hearing > > the other side, > > though ... anyone? > > Jon > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:42 PM > > > To: Exchange Discussions > > > Subject: RE: Outlook appointments on Exchange > > > > > > > > > I'd bet the same people who say not to do exactly what you are > > > doing are VERY comfortable with esetuil and isinteg. > > > > > > That's precisely why they say *not* to do it. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > > > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE > > > Sr. Systems Administrator > > > Peregrine Systems > > > Atlanta, GA > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
