Neil,

Have you even bothered to read the FAQ?  All of the questions you are asking
about restores/backups/retention are all in there.

Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive


Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad
idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont
recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then!

So item retention is the way to go then.  Let me think, this will allow me
to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention (I
assume?).  That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario would be
that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full restore in this
case.


Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox from
the server, then someone says "oh can you get it back".  I guess the best
policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby.

I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and
cheaper alternative.  Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk space
in my servers ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 June 2003 18:10
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive

The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to have
Brick Level Backups turned on.  Before you say, "Great", please consider
this.

When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back them
up.  Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog as well,
and really quite un-necessary.

Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their whole
inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user permissions on
public folders.  Don't allow your users to delete ANY Public Folder, this
way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do this "accidentally".

To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in the
Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION.  There are more then enough Q Articles
there to explain how to set this up.



Hth,

Bob Sadler
City of Leawood, KS, USA
WAN/Internet Specialist
913-339-6700 x194


-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive


I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options. Though
I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox via this
method, or public folder using this backup?

Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to restore
using the built in backup?  When I try to expand the "Microsoft Exchange"
tab it asks me which server do I want to query.  I give it one, but the box
never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local to where I am trying
to run Microsoft Backup.

The option for "Microsoft Exchange Server" is available and I can choose the
server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to allow for
selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive

Ouch.  Don't.  Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh sign
that brings about Armageddon.

Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then backup
that file to tape using Arcserve.

Steven
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Steven Dickenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Network Administrator
The Key School, Annapolis Maryland 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Backing up the M Drive


I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a
lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at
all.


Does anyone else get this feeling ?

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