Ed, is correct that is what my ramblings were supposed to mean.

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 August 2003 05:00
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation


>From the dumpster view you can purge items from the dumpster.  I believe
that is what Mr. Bendall was saying. 

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
"One man's Spam is another man's UCE."

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation

You are incorrect.

The Dumpster is really just a view of the items which have been marked as
deleted (i.e. tombstoned) but have not reached the expiration of the Deleted
Item Retention. DIR is just the amount of time which elapses between the
time something has been marked as deleted and the time it is purged from the
information store.

Long explanation short is that you can ALWAYS recover a deleted item during
the deleted item retension period.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 4:40 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation
> 
> 
> Yes purging from deleted item recovery will remove it from the 
> dumpster. I doubt Exmerge would do this as it just exports from the 
> mailbox so I would assume it does the same on the dumpster which of 
> course has to be specifically selected.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 August 2003 19:46
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation
> 
> 
> Thanks for that - following the article and purging from the necessary 
> folders, it's then unrecoverable, correct?
> 
> Would exmerge have removed it from the dumpster too and achieved the 
> same result?
> 
> Stu
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 2:08 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation
> 
> 
> Nope your wrong, you can recover items from the dumpster on Exchange 
> even if you shift delete. Do a search for dumpsteralwayson on 
> Microsoft website.
> This is a reg key that can be added to retrieve items from any folder. 
> It is retrospective.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Paul
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ward, Stuart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 August 2003 19:05
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Del eted Items Retention - Confirmation
> 
> 
> Ex5.5
> 
> I have this set but want to be sure that if an item is 'shift-deleted' 
> from inbox that there is no way to recover said item.  The item does 
> not appear as available to recover under 'tools'->'recover deleted 
> items'.  I have no backups whilst the item existed.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Stu
> 
> 
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