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Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue How do they work on airplanes? > From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:10:02 -0400 > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue > > Of course, this being an Exchange list, Im pretty sure you meant it > was tough using Outlook locally on a laptop with Citrix. Sure enough > it is. Well, in fact, its damn near impossible. We have both VPN and > Citrix here and since we implemented Citrix, none of the laptop users > use the VPN anymore or sync their files offline. For the end-user, > Citrix is a no-brainer it seems. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:48 AM > Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue > > >>> From within Citrix, its simply a matter of copying over the file you >>> need > to >> work on to your local drive on the laptop. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:11 PM >> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue >> >> >>> Makes laptop use a little tough though. >>> >>>> From: "Hague, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:23:15 -0400 >>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue >>>> >>>> Definitely more costly but it really works well. The setup and >> configuration >>>> aspects alone (client-side anyway) are much simpler and the > performance >> is >>>> probably much better than a straight VPN solution. I think if you >>>> look >> it at >>>> all the factors there is a positive "ROI". >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:43 PM >>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue >>>> >>>> >>>> That's certainly an option, but a much more costly one IMHO. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 5:43 PM >>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue >>>> >>>> Have you considered Terminal Server or (better yet) Citrix? This >>>> works wonders for us - full Outlook & Exchange as well as all the >>>> other apps >> we >>>> run. We only have a dozen or so users so far but my understanding >>>> is >> that >>>> Terminal by itself on one decent server (dual Xeon 2.0GHz/1.5GB >>>> RAM) > is >> fine >>>> for 20 or so clients simultaneously. Beyond that, Citrix on top of >> Terminal >>>> is the way to go. Citrix also provides better support for local >> printers, >>>> sound cards, etc plus a host of additional functionality. Either 1 >> requires >>>> only a single port through the firewall which hasnt been blocked by > any >> ISPs >>>> (yet?) and the traffic is already encrypted although I dont imagine > its >> as >>>> "tight" as most VPN solutions. The other thing we found so >>>> convenient > is >> the >>>> "Advanced" Terminal client which is simply a web page that loads >>>> the >> client >>>> software through an ActiveX control in an IE session. The >>>> directions > to >> get >>>> our clients set up was litterally "go to wwww.whatever.com and >>>> follow >> the >>>> instructions". There is some work to do getting the apps set up > properly >> but >>>> common apps like Outlook, Word and Excel are very well documented. >> Getting >>>> our custom apps running wasnt near as difficult as I had expected >> either. >>>> The big trick for us is handling profiles because some of our >>>> clients >> can >>>> not have access to certain apps that other clients need so we had >>>> to >> modify >>>> some profiles manually but with so few clients it hasnt been a big > deal. >>>> >>>> Jeff Hague >>>> MCSE >>>> Network Manager >>>> Randolph-Macon College >>>> Ashland, VA >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Hank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:18 PM >>>> To: Exchange Discussions >>>> Subject: Port 135 and Exchange Issue >>>> >>>> >>>> We are trying to recover from ISPs closing down port 135. We have >>>> an dedicated Exchange Server at a hosting company. 20 of our 23 >>>> people scattered around the country can not use the full >>>> functionality of Outlook/Exchange because of this problem. >>>> >>>> We are a classic case study of how a company has suceeded in >>>> business > by >>>> using most of the functionality of Outlook/Exchange. We built our >>>> 3 >> year >>>> old company's communications, task management, and database using >>>> the Exchange Platform, including extensive use of custom 'forms' >>>> that > track >>>> hundreds of tasks and our workflow. >>>> >>>> The ISP's closing out port 135 has brought us to our knees. We are >>>> scambling just trying to stay on schedule with our committments to >>>> our clients. >>>> >>>> I have no hope that the ISPs will turn open up 135 again, so I also > need >> an >>>> alternative way to connect to the *full* functionality we had >>>> before, >> or be >>>> forced to migrate completely off exchange and rebuild our entire >>>> infrastructure using another platform. >>>> >>>> We have tried to implement a VPN solution, but now realize that >>>> unless >> we >>>> run the connection on our client and have a full internet >>>> connection > at >> the >>>> same time, this will not work for us. We do not know how to do >>>> this. >> We >>>> must have full access to the internet and exchange at the same time >> because >>>> of the nature of our service we provide. >>>> >>>> Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Hank >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >>> Web Interface: >> > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode > =&lang=e > nglish >>> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm >> Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode > =&lang=e > nglish >> To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=& lang=e > nglish > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=& lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]