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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue


How do they work on airplanes?

> From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:10:02 -0400
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> 
> Of course, this being an Exchange list, Im pretty sure you meant it 
> was tough using Outlook locally on a laptop with Citrix. Sure enough 
> it is. Well, in fact, its damn near impossible. We have both VPN and 
> Citrix here and since we implemented Citrix, none of the laptop users 
> use the VPN anymore or sync their files offline. For the end-user, 
> Citrix is a no-brainer it seems.
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:48 AM
> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> 
> 
>>> From within Citrix, its simply a matter of copying over the file you

>>> need
> to
>> work on to your local drive on the laptop.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:11 PM
>> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>> 
>> 
>>> Makes laptop use a little tough though.
>>> 
>>>> From: "Hague, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:23:15 -0400
>>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>>>> 
>>>> Definitely more costly but it really works well. The setup and
>> configuration
>>>> aspects alone (client-side anyway) are much simpler and the
> performance
>> is
>>>> probably much better than a straight VPN solution. I think if you 
>>>> look
>> it at
>>>> all the factors there is a positive "ROI".
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:43 PM
>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> That's certainly an option, but a much more costly one IMHO.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 5:43 PM
>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>>>> 
>>>> Have you considered Terminal Server or (better yet) Citrix? This 
>>>> works wonders for us - full Outlook & Exchange as well as all the 
>>>> other apps
>> we
>>>> run. We only have a dozen or so users so far but my understanding 
>>>> is
>> that
>>>> Terminal by itself on one decent server (dual Xeon 2.0GHz/1.5GB 
>>>> RAM)
> is
>> fine
>>>> for 20 or so clients simultaneously. Beyond that, Citrix  on top of
>> Terminal
>>>> is the way to go. Citrix also provides better support for local
>> printers,
>>>> sound cards, etc plus a host of additional functionality.  Either 1
>> requires
>>>> only a single port through the firewall which hasnt been blocked by
> any
>> ISPs
>>>> (yet?) and the traffic is already encrypted although I dont imagine
> its
>> as
>>>> "tight" as most VPN solutions. The other thing we found so 
>>>> convenient
> is
>> the
>>>> "Advanced" Terminal client which is simply a web page that loads 
>>>> the
>> client
>>>> software through an ActiveX control in an IE session. The 
>>>> directions
> to
>> get
>>>> our clients set up was litterally "go to wwww.whatever.com and 
>>>> follow
>> the
>>>> instructions". There is some work to do getting the apps set up
> properly
>> but
>>>> common apps like Outlook, Word and Excel are very well documented.
>> Getting
>>>> our custom apps running wasnt near as difficult as I had expected
>> either.
>>>> The big trick for us is handling profiles because some of our 
>>>> clients
>> can
>>>> not have access to certain apps that other clients need so we had 
>>>> to
>> modify
>>>> some profiles manually but with so few clients it hasnt been a big
> deal.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff Hague
>>>> MCSE
>>>> Network Manager
>>>> Randolph-Macon College
>>>> Ashland, VA
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Hank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:18 PM
>>>> To: Exchange Discussions
>>>> Subject: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> We are trying to recover from ISPs closing down port 135.  We have 
>>>> an dedicated Exchange Server at a hosting company.  20 of our 23 
>>>> people scattered around the country can not use the full 
>>>> functionality of Outlook/Exchange because of this problem.
>>>> 
>>>> We are a classic case study of how a company has suceeded in 
>>>> business
> by
>>>> using most of the functionality of Outlook/Exchange.  We built our 
>>>> 3
>> year
>>>> old company's communications, task management, and database using 
>>>> the Exchange Platform, including extensive use of custom 'forms' 
>>>> that
> track
>>>> hundreds of tasks and our workflow.
>>>> 
>>>> The ISP's closing out port 135 has brought us to our knees.  We are

>>>> scambling just trying to stay on schedule with our committments to 
>>>> our clients.
>>>> 
>>>> I have no hope that the ISPs will turn open up 135 again, so I also
> need
>> an
>>>> alternative way to connect to the *full*  functionality we had 
>>>> before,
>> or be
>>>> forced to migrate completely off exchange and rebuild our entire 
>>>> infrastructure using another platform.
>>>> 
>>>> We have tried to implement a VPN solution, but now realize that 
>>>> unless
>> we
>>>> run the connection on our client  and have a full internet 
>>>> connection
> at
>> the
>>>> same time, this will not work for us.  We do not know how to do 
>>>> this.
>> We
>>>> must have full access to the internet and exchange at the same time
>> because
>>>> of the nature of our service we provide.
>>>> 
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hank
>>> 
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