Unless your on a flight with wireless Internet access, that laptop would be just as 
useful for e-mail whether your using MAPI, POP3 or Terminal... There are certainly 
ways to work offline regardless of the type of connection you use when your online.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:14 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue


Other than offline mail, there really is no difference.
I dont know too many laptop users who have a TS or Citrix client installed
and nothing else.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Martin Blackstone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue


> But now that nice laptop you use to do your work on a plane or when you
are
> offline is just a terminal, and you have no offline mail or anything....
>
> I'm not saying TS doesn't have its place, I'm just mentioning that for
> someone who is used to taking their office with them may not appreciate
> those changes.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 4:49 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>
> >From within Citrix, its simply a matter of copying over the file you need
to
> work on to your local drive on the laptop.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
>
>
> > Makes laptop use a little tough though.
> >
> > > From: "Hague, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:23:15 -0400
> > > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> > >
> > > Definitely more costly but it really works well. The setup and
> configuration
> > > aspects alone (client-side anyway) are much simpler and the
performance
> is
> > > probably much better than a straight VPN solution. I think if you look
> it at
> > > all the factors there is a positive "ROI".
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:43 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> > >
> > >
> > > That's certainly an option, but a much more costly one IMHO.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 5:43 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> > >
> > > Have you considered Terminal Server or (better yet) Citrix? This works
> > > wonders for us - full Outlook & Exchange as well as all the other apps
> we
> > > run. We only have a dozen or so users so far but my understanding is
> that
> > > Terminal by itself on one decent server (dual Xeon 2.0GHz/1.5GB RAM)
is
> fine
> > > for 20 or so clients simultaneously. Beyond that, Citrix  on top of
> Terminal
> > > is the way to go. Citrix also provides better support for local
> printers,
> > > sound cards, etc plus a host of additional functionality.  Either 1
> requires
> > > only a single port through the firewall which hasnt been blocked by
any
> ISPs
> > > (yet?) and the traffic is already encrypted although I dont imagine
its
> as
> > > "tight" as most VPN solutions. The other thing we found so convenient
is
> the
> > > "Advanced" Terminal client which is simply a web page that loads the
> client
> > > software through an ActiveX control in an IE session. The directions
to
> get
> > > our clients set up was litterally "go to wwww.whatever.com and follow
> the
> > > instructions". There is some work to do getting the apps set up
properly
> but
> > > common apps like Outlook, Word and Excel are very well documented.
> Getting
> > > our custom apps running wasnt near as difficult as I had expected
> either.
> > > The big trick for us is handling profiles because some of our clients
> can
> > > not have access to certain apps that other clients need so we had to
> modify
> > > some profiles manually but with so few clients it hasnt been a big
deal.
> > >
> > > Jeff Hague
> > > MCSE
> > > Network Manager
> > > Randolph-Macon College
> > > Ashland, VA
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:18 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> > >
> > >
> > > We are trying to recover from ISPs closing down port 135.  We have an
> > > dedicated Exchange Server at a hosting company.  20 of our 23 people
> > > scattered around the country can not use the full functionality of
> > > Outlook/Exchange because of this problem.
> > >
> > > We are a classic case study of how a company has suceeded in business
by
> > > using most of the functionality of Outlook/Exchange.  We built our 3
> year
> > > old company's communications, task management, and database using the
> > > Exchange Platform, including extensive use of custom 'forms' that
track
> > > hundreds of tasks and our workflow.
> > >
> > > The ISP's closing out port 135 has brought us to our knees.  We are
> > > scambling just trying to stay on schedule with our committments to our
> > > clients.
> > >
> > > I have no hope that the ISPs will turn open up 135 again, so I also
need
> an
> > > alternative way to connect to the *full*  functionality we had before,
> or be
> > > forced to migrate completely off exchange and rebuild our entire
> > > infrastructure using another platform.
> > >
> > > We have tried to implement a VPN solution, but now realize that unless
> we
> > > run the connection on our client  and have a full internet connection
at
> the
> > > same time, this will not work for us.  We do not know how to do this.
> We
> > > must have full access to the internet and exchange at the same time
> because
> > > of the nature of our service we provide.
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Hank
> >
> >
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