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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue


> How do they work on airplanes?
>
> > From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:10:02 -0400
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> >
> > Of course, this being an Exchange list, Im pretty sure you meant it was
> > tough using Outlook locally on a laptop with Citrix.
> > Sure enough it is. Well, in fact, its damn near impossible. We have both
VPN
> > and Citrix here and since we implemented Citrix, none of the laptop
users
> > use the VPN anymore or sync their files offline.
> > For the end-user, Citrix is a no-brainer it seems.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andy David" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> >
> >
> >>> From within Citrix, its simply a matter of copying over the file you
need
> > to
> >> work on to your local drive on the laptop.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Chris Scharff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 10:11 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> >>
> >>
> >>> Makes laptop use a little tough though.
> >>>
> >>>> From: "Hague, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> Reply-To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 11:23:15 -0400
> >>>> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> >>>>
> >>>> Definitely more costly but it really works well. The setup and
> >> configuration
> >>>> aspects alone (client-side anyway) are much simpler and the
> > performance
> >> is
> >>>> probably much better than a straight VPN solution. I think if you
look
> >> it at
> >>>> all the factors there is a positive "ROI".
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 9:43 PM
> >>>> To: Exchange Discussions
> >>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> That's certainly an option, but a much more costly one IMHO.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Hague, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 5:43 PM
> >>>> To: Exchange Discussions
> >>>> Subject: RE: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> >>>>
> >>>> Have you considered Terminal Server or (better yet) Citrix? This
works
> >>>> wonders for us - full Outlook & Exchange as well as all the other
apps
> >> we
> >>>> run. We only have a dozen or so users so far but my understanding is
> >> that
> >>>> Terminal by itself on one decent server (dual Xeon 2.0GHz/1.5GB RAM)
> > is
> >> fine
> >>>> for 20 or so clients simultaneously. Beyond that, Citrix  on top of
> >> Terminal
> >>>> is the way to go. Citrix also provides better support for local
> >> printers,
> >>>> sound cards, etc plus a host of additional functionality.  Either 1
> >> requires
> >>>> only a single port through the firewall which hasnt been blocked by
> > any
> >> ISPs
> >>>> (yet?) and the traffic is already encrypted although I dont imagine
> > its
> >> as
> >>>> "tight" as most VPN solutions. The other thing we found so convenient
> > is
> >> the
> >>>> "Advanced" Terminal client which is simply a web page that loads the
> >> client
> >>>> software through an ActiveX control in an IE session. The directions
> > to
> >> get
> >>>> our clients set up was litterally "go to wwww.whatever.com and follow
> >> the
> >>>> instructions". There is some work to do getting the apps set up
> > properly
> >> but
> >>>> common apps like Outlook, Word and Excel are very well documented.
> >> Getting
> >>>> our custom apps running wasnt near as difficult as I had expected
> >> either.
> >>>> The big trick for us is handling profiles because some of our clients
> >> can
> >>>> not have access to certain apps that other clients need so we had to
> >> modify
> >>>> some profiles manually but with so few clients it hasnt been a big
> > deal.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jeff Hague
> >>>> MCSE
> >>>> Network Manager
> >>>> Randolph-Macon College
> >>>> Ashland, VA
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Hank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2003 3:18 PM
> >>>> To: Exchange Discussions
> >>>> Subject: Port 135 and Exchange Issue
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> We are trying to recover from ISPs closing down port 135.  We have an
> >>>> dedicated Exchange Server at a hosting company.  20 of our 23 people
> >>>> scattered around the country can not use the full functionality of
> >>>> Outlook/Exchange because of this problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> We are a classic case study of how a company has suceeded in business
> > by
> >>>> using most of the functionality of Outlook/Exchange.  We built our 3
> >> year
> >>>> old company's communications, task management, and database using the
> >>>> Exchange Platform, including extensive use of custom 'forms' that
> > track
> >>>> hundreds of tasks and our workflow.
> >>>>
> >>>> The ISP's closing out port 135 has brought us to our knees.  We are
> >>>> scambling just trying to stay on schedule with our committments to
our
> >>>> clients.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have no hope that the ISPs will turn open up 135 again, so I also
> > need
> >> an
> >>>> alternative way to connect to the *full*  functionality we had
before,
> >> or be
> >>>> forced to migrate completely off exchange and rebuild our entire
> >>>> infrastructure using another platform.
> >>>>
> >>>> We have tried to implement a VPN solution, but now realize that
unless
> >> we
> >>>> run the connection on our client  and have a full internet connection
> > at
> >> the
> >>>> same time, this will not work for us.  We do not know how to do this.
> >> We
> >>>> must have full access to the internet and exchange at the same time
> >> because
> >>>> of the nature of our service we provide.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any ideas?
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Hank
> >>>
> >>>
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