Maybe just changing the order would work

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Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Timeout Errors Backing up Exchange 2000 with 
> Backup Exec 9
> 
> 
> No problems backing up the store with NT Backup. In fact, no 
> problems backing up the store alone with Backup Exec. Problem 
> seems only to happen when backing up all (15 total) servers 
> in one job. 
> 
> Last night we tried separating out the Exchange backup in a 
> separate job and I'm still waiting for it to complete. Will 
> update the list with results.
> 
> 
> 
>               Thanks...Ray
> 
> Thought for the day:
> A good rule of thumb is if you've made it to thirty-five and 
> your job still requires you to wear a name tag, you've made a 
> serious vocational error.
>               --Dennis Miller 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:10 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Timeout Errors Backing up Exchange 2000 with 
> Backup Exec 9
> 
> 
> Other than Andy's suggestion of trying NTBackup, have you 
> looked to see that
> the Backup Exec agent is running with sufficient rights?
> 
> SP4 for Win2k changes some of the permissions levels to better match
> Win2k3's permissions model, and quite specifically it changes network
> permissions. Windows 2000 & .Net magazine had a web article 
> about it not too
> long ago, which I stumbled across the other day. 
> http://www.win2000mag.net/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=39534
> 
> From the article:
> "One end result is that some programs, plus services not 
> under control of
> svchost.exe, might not behave as expected when they logon 
> with an account
> that does not have the 'Impersonate a client after 
> authentication' right. "
> 
> I wonder if that's not the cause of the issue.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 7:49 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Timeout Errors Backing up Exchange 2000 with Backup Exec 9
> > 
> > 
> > Exchange 2000 Server - SP3 running on Windows Server (DC) 2000 - SP4
> > 
> > Question:
> > Running BackupExec 9.0 Build 4454 (the latest) and have been 
> > getting the following error almost exclusively during the 
> > Exchange server portion of the backup.
> > 
> > Final error code: a00084f8 HEX
> > Final error description: A timeout occurred waiting for data 
> > from the agent during operation shutdown.
> > 
> > We have been working with support for a couple months and 
> > they keep pointing at network problems but aren't offering 
> > much more help on what types of problems to look for. As far 
> > as we can tell we are a standard network setup; Windows 2000 
> > Active Directory, all up to date on service packs; one 
> > Exchange server and one SQL server (separate machines); no 
> > apparent network problems or bottlenecks in everyday operations.
> > 
> > We've tried setting the ports explicitly to 100mb Full duplex 
> > at the Exchange server, backup server and switch ports. We 
> > tried stopping our ScanMail application also and verified 
> > that none of the Exchange maintenance tasks were running at 
> > the time of the backup. 
> > 
> > Is there anyone out there that might be able to offer any 
> > more suggestions on how to troubleshoot these problems? We 
> > are not getting reliable backups and are looking for whatever 
> > help we can find.
> > 
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