Okay, how much must I pay to become ethical in Decklerfantasyland? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Deckler Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics The point is that it would no longer be a gift if you paid for it. Yes, it is ethical to pay for an MCSE certificate. There are clear rules defined for what you must achieve and the amount that you must pay. Everyone knows what those rules are. The MVP is a subjective gift and accepting it is a clear violation of ethicds. Making it something that you can pay for takes it out of the realm of being a gift. "Oh MVP, yeah you pay for that, that's OK". Now, paying for it is just the first step. To *really* be ethical, it would have to have non-subjective selection criteria, blah blah blah, but if I cannot even convince people that there is a conflict of interest, I am not even going to attempt any ethical arguments that start to get even remotely "tricky". > Greg wrote: > "Well, you're missing the big picture and the whole point, but yes, if > you paid Microsoft, even one dollar, then it would not be such an > egregious breach of ethics." > > Well if you aren't smoking crack / eating babies / whatever else it is > you're not doing then maybe you should start because your arguments > are getting weaker. > > Your initial assertion is based on a sound principle and you had a > case to argue from that principle although you would never convince many people. > > But now you genuinely seem to be proposing that *buying* a title would > be more ethical than *earning* one. That is plain potty and I can't > believe that you will stick to that when you consider it again. I > don't expect you to give an inch on this list but privately you must > be thinking that was a bit of a blunder if you are thinking at all. > > > The information contained in this e-mail is intended for the recipient > or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential > information that is exempt from disclosure by law and if you are not > the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any act > in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please > notify the sender immediately and delete from your system. _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]