Greg-- SHUT UP!!!!! Why are you making this your personal agenda.
-----Original Message----- From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics Um, yes it DOES make it unethical. You are accepting a direct gift from a vendor and then turning around and supposedly giving unbiased technical advice to a client. That is the definition of "real or perceived conflict of interest". It does not mean that you WILL act unethically, but it is OBVIOUSLY a breach of ethical conduct and conflict of interest rules. > Sort of. There are no well documented criteria that you apply for and > then meet, there are informal criteria that leads to an invitation.=20 > > As I said, others must decide whether the criteria meet the expertise > they are looking for. That does not make it unethical, as you know. > > I seriously doubt any customer will give you a blank check simply based > on being an MVP, but I know I can have a higher degree of trust for the > info (usually) a MVP provides in lists like this. > > Best Regards,=20 > > Dan Bartley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:42 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics > > Just so that the record is set straight and Deckler doesn't feel the > need to > write a 2,000-word response to this technical inaccuracy, the title of > MVP > isn't awarded based set standards. It's rather subjective, I must > confess. > > Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP > Freelance E-Mail Philosopher > Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Bartley > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 9:36 AM > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics > > Titles based on criteria that has been successfully met, as in MVP or > Cisco > Certified, etc., has no ethical issues. It is an earned title that > denotes > an area of expertise. It is up to those who view the title to determine > if > the criteria for getting the title warrants a level of trust and > respect. > > Personal gifts from vendors that you make purchasing decisions regarding > is > unethical. > > Rules of ethics are necessary in this business. > > Ceaselessly arguing in order to have the last word is poor use of brain > power, poor use of this list and poor use of ethics. Anyone whose > priority > is to *always* win the "fight" must sacrifice the truth and good > judgment, > thereby violating basic ethics. > > Just another opinion :-) > > Best Regards,=20 > > Dan Bartley > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Deckler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:24 > To: Exchange Discussions > Subject: RE: Greg's Utterly Fascinating Views on Ethics > > I got to the first paragraph in your post and pretty much quit reading.=20 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=3Dexchange&text_mode=3D= > & > lang > =3Denglish > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _________________________________________________________________ > List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm > Web Interface: > http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=3Dexchange&text_mode=3D= > & > lang=3Denglish > To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________________ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchange&text_mode=&lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin: [EMAIL PROTECTED]