Don't use arcserve either.  I have to and it SUCKS.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database recovery help


Don't do brick level backups.  It's not worth it.  Go read the FAQ's.

www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm.

They are well worth the reading.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems


-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database recovery help

Microsoft recommends an Exchange aware agent to backup a live database.
Depending on what software vendor you are using you should be able to
purchase an Exchange agent so you can do brick level backups and restores
(brick level is to the mailbox level and down to a single e-mail).  I know
CA's ArcserveIT has the agent and I think all the other major players do
too.  

If you can afford that then you should do a flat file backup but that
requires you to stop the Exchange services then backup the priv, pub and
dir.edb file.  this only allows you to restore the entire database instead
of a single mailbox or e-mail.  

I would hightly recommend the first option.

todd

<<< [EMAIL PROTECTED]  1/10  1:07a >>>

Hi Todd,
Need your help here, What is the best way to backup exchange 5.5 server
according to MS. 
Please I want to get this right.

Kind Regards and wish you all the best in recovery. If get any solution I
would let you know.


Emmanuel



-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 10/01/2002 01:13
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database recovery help


I've had good luck with MS assistance as well and it is worth the money.
Unfortunately MS was not able to help this time.  I don't think there is
anything available to recover the database but I wanted to investigate it
first before I gave up hope.  Hopefully a miracle will happen and someone
will have a utility that might help.  They are running with a database from
Nov. 3rd so they didn't lose everything, only the last 2 stinking months of
e-mail, but that makes a big difference to management.

thanks,

todd

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/09/02 05:05PM >>>
Yup...just went thru the scenerio described...my database went bad...only to
realize we were backing up the wrong info...spent 3-4 hours running all the
esutils with no luck...called MS support at 11:30pm (thinking there was no
way they could help me with no backups)...they had my Exchange up in 20
minutes...and worked to clean out the database thru the next day (I was so
so relieved..)...also taught me how to backup (correctly)...boy did I learn
a lot.  Best $249.00 I've ever spent...saved my ass and my job.

Fred Valdez
Global Software Resources
Network Systems Administrator

          


-----Original Message-----
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database recovery help


PSS.$249US approx.Worth every penny.

Or have you already gone down that path? ("attempted to recover with
Microsoft")

William 

-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2002 4:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Database recovery help


A client of ours has a corrupted database that we attempted to recover with
Microsoft with no luck.  I was wondering if anyone has any input on a 3rd
party utility that might assist us in recovering at least some of the mail?
I know restoring from backups would be the ideal solution but we don't have
that option, I know, I know, it's a long story but unfortunately we don't
have that option at this time.  

Any info is greatly appreciated.

thanks,

Todd Wood
Peterbuilt Technology


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