Yes, and no. My background is similiar (although probably older). You get eliminated from a lot of positions because you don't have certs, and because lots of people doing the hiring don't know any better.
By being a positive contributor to the list, you may find a job. Others have, even without the certs, because they know you have the knowledge. YMMV -----Original Message----- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS LMFAO!!!!!!!!!! On a side note, just because I am interested in knowing a little about people before I start trying things people suggest, what is "your" background, ie MSCE, MCP, MBA, MD, no college/never graduated with a degree? The reason I ask is I went to college for 1 1/2 years, ran out of $$$$$$$ and left college, decided I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life, so I started working with computers and just kept with it. I have no certifications, all my knowledge is based on real world situations and reading through groups like this and "playing" on test machines. I have been able to mess with a lot of different technology such as: wireless networking, SAN's, ip based phones, POTS/PBX lines, AS400's, SCO, Linux, DOS, 9x, NT/2k and much more. That being said, is there any real reason to have something on paper saying I am a MCSE, MCP, CCNA, GOB (Good ol' Boy), etc? If you were hiring someone, how much weight does paper have in regards to real world of IT/IS? I am content with my current position as sys admin, but just curious as my parents are still asking me if I plan to go back to college at some point, I am a youngin, 25. I don't think, at this point in time, there is ANY reason to get a degree, but think that maybe some extra letters on my name might get me more money/better title/more respect. Hope I don't get flamed for stealing the thread, but I thought this kinda fit in with the OT bone head questions. Thoughts or comments please? Thanks, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS My child at age 2 " daddy if I came from inside of mommie, and you and mom made me, where you ever in mommie? How is that for an answer? --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -----Original Message----- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS Kevin, I'm an MCSE. Where do babies come from? -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: April 3, 2002 6:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: WLKMMAS In a fit or rage from answering extreme bone head Questions from MCSE's I added a ton of letters after my name with a tag line of "More letters after my name makes me SmArTER" Oh man did I get flamed on that one. In true Don Ely style I flamed back, But in the end gave up the tag line. keeping some of the letters. Over time others have given me new letters with meaning and here they are. WLKMMAS=William Lefkovics Kevin Miller Mutual Appreciation Society [1] UCC+WCA=Urban Computer Commando + Wall Climbing Ability [2] [1] an inside joke between William and my self [2] Late on an all weekend upgrade, had no keys to an office that held some servers. I managed over the wall in the drop ceiling to get stuck above the door in the small hole, for about 10 minutes. Finally made it out and went back up and tried again. This time making it over. That is my story and I am sticking to it.. : > www.wlkmmas.org --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -----Original Message----- From: Tim Boswell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT: WLKMMAS OK, I've been trying to hold it in, but it's no good.... What the hell does that acronym mean??!?!? I checked Google and the only results I saw involved Kevin!! Is this some bizarre practice of putting random letters after your name to try and look qualified? If so I gotta try it (my boss genuinely wouldn't catch on....ever) Tim Boswell QWE+RTY, UIOP(2.0), SkillDrill Certified (hey, that last one's genuine too!) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q I like you = ] you got Spunk.. When you don't have " Broke ass shit " -Don Ely Why touch it? --Kevinm CHFR, M, WLKMMAS, UCC+WCA, And Beyond http://www.daughtry.ca/ For Graphics and WebDesign, GO here! -----Original Message----- From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 6:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q It aint broke yet so I aint fixin nuthing.. -----Original Message----- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 April 2002 04:31 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q wow, no service packs. that's wonderful. -----Original Message----- From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 11:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q The only reasons to reboot are: 1) A badly setup server 2) A lazy / Ignorant / uninformed administrator 3) Real hardware problems.. I've and exchange 5.5 box in another office that has not been rebooted since July 2000 (and that was a faulty UPS causing a power out).. Later Brent -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 April 2002 09:12 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q I don't reboot unless I absolutely have to. This includes network equipment as well as servers. If you have to reboot things on a monthly basis for "network stability", there is an underlying problem that should be addressed. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -K.Borndale IT Manager Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com "One man's ceiling is another man's floor" |---------+----------------------------> | | "Joe Irvine" | | | <jirvine@tbopayro| | | ll.com> | | | | | | 04/01/2002 11:53 | | | AM | | | Please respond to| | | "MS-Exchange | | | Admin Issues" | | | | |---------+----------------------------> >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- -----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: "MS-Exchange Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | | cc: | | Subject: RE: Exchange server reboot simple q | >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- -----------------------------------------------------------------------| I cold-boot my entire network once a month.. it works wonders for network stability. Thanks! Joe Irvine Director of Information Technology The Business Office, Inc. (609) 597-1155, Fax (609) 597-2860 www.tbopayroll.com -----Original Message----- From: Paul Green [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 10:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Exchange server reboot simple q Just curious-- how often do people reboot their exchange servers? Or do you? Our exchange server has been up for 7 months straight now w/o a reboot. I am wondering if it would be a good idea to reboot it every now and then-- free up any memory leakages, etc.. Is it necessary, or can I let it just keep chugging away until it is necessary? Any input, thoughts, etc. would be great. Thanks. paul green seattle --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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