Yes that will work. I did it and found out the phone is a brick awards, until you reload the device with iTunes.
-----Original Message----- From: James Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 11:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something else? Have you actually seen any iPhones enforce that particular policy? The documentation and all of our testing indicates that an iPhone WON'T "wipe after xx bad PIN attempts". --James On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Eric Woodford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Problem we are having with our Windows Mobile devices is security. It's > harder to enforce encryption and password policies on the Windows mobile > devices. BES has this out of the box. > > Try telling that iPhone user that their device will wipe if they put their > password in wrong 10 times... > > On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 6:42 AM, Pete Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Agreed, Our office has a bunch of berries that were rushed in by the CEO a >> few years ago. He loves it, so we keep them and they work well but I'm going >> to have him try a Windows mobile device and explain the cost benefit >> >> >> Pete Howard | Systems Engineer >> MCSE 3.51-2003 | ESX VCP >> * EMail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Matt Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2008 10:40:02 PM >> Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? >> >> I'm with you! Our office has a BES and a bunch of berries but I hold >> out!!!!! One less point of failure. Die berry die. >> >> Although when a user goes swimming with their trusty berry the sticker >> shock >> is a sight to behold. =) >> M >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:08 PM >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> Subject: RE: Blackberry, or something else? >> >> Bah humbug. I drink the Windows Mobile kool-aid instead of the BES >> kool-aid. >> >> Just make sure your devices are WM 6.1. :-) >> >> (I just had to throw in an opposing opinion.) >> >> Regards, >> >> Michael B. Smith >> MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP >> http://TheEssentialExchange.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 9:51 PM >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something else? >> >> Interesting. So it would seem that BES uses SQL as a backend for >> Exchange integration. >> >> The latency for our AU and UK offices is pretty consistently between >> 100-200ms, with regular spikes to above 500ms. That could prove >> interesting. >> >> Kurt >> >> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 6:28 PM, Barsodi.John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > To add, I'm a huge BES fan as well. >> > >> > I have 7 BES servers worldwide...including the countries you have >> > offices >> in. You need to keep your BES server as close to your Exchange server as >> possible, which would make sharing SQL difficult as Don suggested. You'll >> run into worker thread errors if you have high latency between BES & >> Exchange. I've gotten RIM support to confirm up to 300ms max, ideally >> nothing over 35ms. >> > >> > - John Barsodi >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 6:11 PM >> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> > Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something else? >> > >> > Your mantra is spot on! >> > >> > I'll say up front that I'm a BES fan. The only limiting factor I can >> > think >> of is that in order to manage the whole environment as one is the need to >> share a SQL database across all your BES'. I'd think a sales support type >> could assist with some recommendations, trade offs etc. >> > >> > --------------------------------- >> > Sent from my BlackBerry Wireless Handheld >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Kurt Buff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >> > Sent: Wed Sep 03 18:51:46 2008 >> > Subject: Re: Blackberry, or something else? >> > >> > Yes, I'm all over the policy thing. Fortunately, I haven't yet set up >> > OMA/ActiveSynch/IMAP-over-SSL/whatever, and the migration from >> > Exchange 5.5 cut off the IMAP and POP for everyone - by design! - so >> > there has been some howling about that. >> > >> > I'm now almost ready to throw the bone to the crowd, but I want it to >> > be the right bone in the right way. >> > >> > Centrally managed on company-issued devices only - that's my mantra. I >> > want the data secure both in transit and at rest. >> > >> > Kurt >> > >> > On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:59 PM, Troy Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> >> Hey Kurt, >> >> >> >> Any set of devices might work for you, if you guys have money, go with >> Blackberry and BES because its got a nice central management for what you >> are looking for. >> >> >> >> I would say put more effort into shaping policy than worrying about >> phones. We made that mistake about 2 years ago and found ourselves with 3 >> mobile mail solutions (activesync, goodlink, BES) and phones from all >> sorts >> of vendors and providers and it's a support nightmare. (try telling the >> one >> exec using a Palm 600 he needs to upgrade or move to a blackberry). I >> also >> wish we had set policy in the beginning regarding security and encryption >> because its always harder retroactively. >> >> >> >> Note: I was not employed here during original implementation, but would >> have loved to be in your position to consider all of the policy side >> before >> implementation. >> >> >> >> -troy >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 4:54 PM >> >> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues >> >> Subject: Blackberry, or something else? >> >> >> >> All, >> >> >> >> I'm getting a lot of pressure to get mobile devices to users in our >> >> US, UK and AU offices. As you might imagine, the sales staff in the AU >> >> and UK offices travel internationally quite a bit, so I have to think >> >> beyond the boundaries of those countries, into Europe and Asia. Sales >> >> and other mobile staff would total perhaps 50-75 people worldwide. >> >> >> >> We have E2k3 servers in each office, but I want central control - the >> >> ability to remote kill and otherwise manage this, if possible. >> >> >> >> What have been your experiences - and what would you recommend? >> >> >> >> I haven't worked with Blackberry or anything else mobile for Exchange >> >> before, so am more than a bit uncertain about this, especially the >> >> risk to company data on these things floating around. >> >> >> >> Any help much appreciated. >> >> >> >> Kurt >> >> >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> >> > >> > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> > >> > >> > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> > >> > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> > ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> >> ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ >> ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ >> >> > > ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~