When it comes to the theft or unintentional leaking of data, most of the foxes are already in the henhouse because they're internal users.
John From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 3:45 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week. Would you trust the fox in the hen house? From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 11:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week. Is there some evidence to indicate that if one uses Google to host their data, they're agreeing to allow Google to use their data? We use Google/Postini to archive our e-mail, and I saw nothing in our contract that would make the mining of our data by Google acceptable. And while I'm reasonably confident that our network is secure, I'll readily admit that Google's is very likely more secure than ours. In all honesty, our data is likely safer within their infrastructure than within our own. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us<http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us> From: Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week. Oh yes! And not to just anyone, the biggest data miners in the world. From: Hank . [mailto:hgedr...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 4:50 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week. But you forgot to mention that you get to give all of your data to someone else. Remember one of the most basic of about security is that you maintain physical control of your data. On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Barr <stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com<mailto:stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com>> wrote: Goggle Apps cost $50 per seat, per email address, per year. There are no other costs. For the $50 here's a short list of what you get: * Vanity email address / your.n...@yourdomainname.com<mailto:your.n...@yourdomainname.com> * SSL * AntiSpam, AntiVirus * Postini * 25GB of storage per email address On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Dave Wade <dave.w...@stockport.gov.uk<mailto:dave.w...@stockport.gov.uk>> wrote: Paul, I am a Radio Ham and one of the guys I chat to works in a small (about 25 staff) organization, and has just upgraded his system to Windows/2008r2 and Exchange 2010. When I expressed suprise that he wasn't out sourcing to Google apps or some thing of that ilk he said when costed over 4 years it looked very expensive, especially given the uncertainty in pricing given we work in Sterling... Dave Wade 0161 474 5456 ________________________________ From: Paul Hutchings Sent: Fri 20/08/2010 17:13 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week. I've never really seen it as "Google vs. Exchange" tbh, I think both do different things and suit different needs. Office with half a dozen people and no real IT need or infrastructure and I think I'd find it hard to see past Google Apps or Hosted Exchange, even scaled up to a couple dozen staff and a single server I'm not sure Exchange would be first choice simply because if nothing else you do need to back it up and someone needs to ensure that happens. On the other hand, if you have a few dozen or a few hundred users and have even a modest investment in things like a SAN or vmware and decent connectivity and someone with IT knowledge then I'm not sure it's so easy a decision. -----Original Message----- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com<mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com>] Sent: 20 August 2010 13:23 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this week. Would definitely be interested in some details as far as client size, feature usage (shared calendars, contacts, etc...), and the technical level of the users. It seems from past things I've read, the service is better suited to companies with a greater proportion of more savvy users. Jason > -----Original Message----- > From: Stephan Barr > [mailto:stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com<mailto:stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com>] > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 19:14 > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues > Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this > week. > > Maybe you haven't used it recently. Groups do not count as email > addresses and meet the need of distribution lists and shared boxes. > > definitely different cost model. Per each client they will save thousands > per year. > > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Duncan Turnbull <dun...@e-simple.co.nz<mailto:dun...@e-simple.co.nz>> > wrote: > > > There is a different cost model here, and some limitations but > various upsides > > One big issue I see is if you have lots of shared mailboxes e.g. > for client projects or other reasons then you have to pay for all of > those as a license, as always it will be horses for courses > > What about Microsoft Live > > Cheers Duncan > > On 20/08/2010, at 9:59 AM, Stephan Barr wrote: > > > Super easy. Customers love it. > > -- MIRA Ltd Watling Street, Nuneaton, Warwickshire, CV10 0TU, England. Registered in England and Wales No. 402570 VAT Registration GB 114 5409 96 The contents of this e-mail are confidential and are solely for the use of the intended recipient. If you receive this e-mail in error, please delete it and notify us either by e-mail, telephone or fax. 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