My customers are (always) looking for ways to save money on IT and this
qualifies.

On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Stephan Barr
<stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com>wrote:

> +1
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> On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 1:15 PM, John Hornbuckle <
> john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us> wrote:
>
>> Is there some evidence to indicate that if one uses Google to host their
>> data, they’re agreeing to allow Google to use their data?
>>
>>
>>
>> We use Google/Postini to archive our e-mail, and I saw nothing in our
>> contract that would make the mining of our data by Google acceptable.
>>
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>> And while I’m reasonably confident that our network is secure, I’ll
>> readily admit that Google’s is very likely more secure than ours. In all
>> honesty, our data is likely safer within their infrastructure than within
>> our own.
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>>
>> John Hornbuckle
>>
>> MIS Department
>>
>> Taylor County School District
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>> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
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>> *From:* Matt Moore [mailto:mattmoore...@hotmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:48 PM
>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
>> week.
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh yes! And not to just anyone, the biggest data miners in the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Hank . [mailto:hgedr...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 22, 2010 4:50 AM
>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>> *Subject:* Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
>> week.
>>
>>
>>
>> But you forgot to mention that you get to give all of your data to someone
>> else.
>>
>> Remember one of the most basic of about security is that you maintain
>> physical control of your data.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Stephan Barr <
>> stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Goggle Apps cost $50 per seat, per email address, per year. There are no
>> other costs.  For the $50 here's a short list of what you get:
>>
>>    - Vanity email address / your.n...@yourdomainname.com
>>    - SSL
>>    - AntiSpam, AntiVirus
>>    - Postini
>>    - 25GB of storage per email address
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Dave Wade <dave.w...@stockport.gov.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Paul,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am a Radio Ham and one of the guys I chat to works in a small (about 25
>> staff) organization, and has just upgraded his system to Windows/2008r2 and
>>  Exchange 2010. When I expressed suprise that he wasn't out sourcing to
>> Google apps or some thing of that ilk he said when costed over 4 years it
>> looked very expensive, especially given the uncertainty in pricing given we
>> work in Sterling...
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dave Wade*
>>
>> *0161 474 5456*
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* Paul Hutchings
>> *Sent:* Fri 20/08/2010 17:13
>>
>>
>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>
>> *Subject:* RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
>> week.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've never really seen it as "Google vs. Exchange" tbh, I think both do
>>
>> different things and suit different needs.
>>
>>
>>
>> Office with half a dozen people and no real IT need or infrastructure
>>
>> and I think I'd find it hard to see past Google Apps or Hosted Exchange,
>>
>> even scaled up to a couple dozen staff and a single server I'm not sure
>>
>> Exchange would be first choice simply because if nothing else you do
>>
>> need to back it up and someone needs to ensure that happens.
>>
>>
>>
>> On the other hand, if you have a few dozen or a few hundred users and
>>
>> have even a modest investment in things like a SAN or vmware and decent
>>
>> connectivity and someone with IT knowledge then I'm not sure it's so
>>
>> easy a decision.
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com]
>>
>> Sent: 20 August 2010 13:23
>>
>> To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>
>> Subject: RE: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps this
>>
>> week.
>>
>>
>>
>> Would definitely be interested in some details as far as client size,
>>
>> feature usage (shared calendars, contacts, etc...), and the technical
>>
>> level of the users.
>>
>>
>>
>> It seems from past things I've read, the service is better suited to
>>
>> companies with a greater proportion of more savvy users.
>>
>>  Jason
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>>
>> > From: Stephan Barr [mailto:stephanbarr.li...@gmail.com]
>>
>> > Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 19:14
>>
>> > To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>
>> > Subject: Re: Exchange is history?: Moved two clients to GoogleApps
>>
>> this
>>
>> > week.
>>
>> >
>>
>> > Maybe you haven't used it recently. Groups do not count as email
>>
>> > addresses and meet the need of distribution lists and shared boxes.
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>> >
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>> > definitely different cost model. Per each client they will save
>>
>> thousands
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>> > per year.
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>> >
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>> >
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>> > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Duncan Turnbull
>>
>> <dun...@e-simple.co.nz>
>>
>> > wrote:
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>> >
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>> >
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>> >       There is a different cost model here, and some limitations but
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>> > various upsides
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>> >
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>> >       One big issue I see is if you have lots of shared mailboxes e.g.
>>
>> > for client projects or other reasons then you have to pay for all of
>>
>> > those as a license, as always it will be horses for courses
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>> >
>>
>> >       What about Microsoft Live
>>
>> >
>>
>> >       Cheers Duncan
>>
>> >
>>
>> >       On 20/08/2010, at 9:59 AM, Stephan Barr wrote:
>>
>> >
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>> >
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>> >              Super easy. Customers love it.
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>> >
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