BUT ios is Implementing EAS is not so great, it causing issues I guess.. On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Patrick Salmon <psal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Reason 1: MS being so late to the game with a viable competitor is the > largest part. People have a horrible tendency to buy (and use) what they > like and we infrastructure folks are at the mercy of market whims. WM was > left standing in the dirt and MS have reacted, and reacted exceedingly > well, but it'll take time. > > Reason 2: Kinda sad that Apple consistently get kudos for implementing EAS > better than anyone - including MS at times :-( > > > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, justino garcia > <jgarciaitl...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones? >> If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook??? >> >> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith >> <mich...@smithcons.com>wrote: >> >>> There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone.** >>> ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what it >>> implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything. >>> **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which >>> can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of >>> various types when they shouldn’t.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Regards,**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Michael B. Smith**** >>> >>> Consultant and Exchange MVP**** >>> >>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto: >>> pramatow...@mediageneral.com] >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM >>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues >>> >>> *Subject:* RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> What our shop supports: **** >>> >>> Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than >>> does the device play well**** >>> >>> User devices- Can be **anything****** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES.**** >>> >>> [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server. ** >>> ** >>> >>> [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS. **** >>> >>> And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access >>> OWA, have at it <g>)**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB >>> on the BES.**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Our only requirement for EAS is this :**** >>> >>> Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed **** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I don’t even know what the above line means K**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM >>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues >>> *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office >>> suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile....\**** >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, <pramatow...@mediageneral.com> wrote:** >>> ** >>> >>> + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to >>> someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO >>> asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it. >>> Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a >>> fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing >>> "standards" differently (and not just iDevs). >>> >>> I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to >>> show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing, >>> or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want >>> a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some >>> folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so >>> what can I say, and some have them just because they can. >>> >>> So it goes. >>> /2¥ opinion >>> >>> Blackberry >>> **** >>> >>> *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] >>> *Sent*: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM >>> *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com> >>> >>> *Subject*: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010 >>> **** >>> >>> <Opinion on>**** >>> >>> iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun, >>> neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security >>> are half hearted and voluntary. **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues >>> like this and worse.**** >>> >>> <Opinion off>**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM >>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues >>> *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007. >>> IS it a bug with having a IOS device?**** >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> You using an iOS device too?**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Regards,**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Michael B. Smith**** >>> >>> Consultant and Exchange MVP**** >>> >>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com] >>> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM >>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues >>> *Subject:* Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010**** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click "Send Update" to >>> save changes and send updates to meeting attendees. >>> >>> Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010 >>> OWA? >>> >>> I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I >>> can't send update to people I invited. >>> >>> Exchange 2010 latest sp >>> >>> Justino >>> -- >>> Justin >>> IT-TECH**** >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist**** >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist**** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Justin >>> IT-TECH**** >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist**** >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist**** >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist**** >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Justin >>> IT-TECH**** >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist**** >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist**** >>> >>> --- >>> To manage subscriptions click here: >>> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >>> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >>> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Justin >> IT-TECH >> >> --- >> To manage subscriptions click here: >> http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ >> or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com >> with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist >> > > --- > To manage subscriptions click here: > http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ > or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com > with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist > -- Justin IT-TECH --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist