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On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:45 AM, justino garcia <jgarciaitl...@gmail.com>wrote:

> BUT ios is Implementing  EAS is not so great, it causing issues I guess..
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Patrick Salmon <psal...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Reason 1: MS being so late to the game with a viable competitor is the
>> largest part. People have a horrible tendency to buy (and use) what they
>> like and we infrastructure folks are at the mercy of market whims. WM was
>> left standing in the dirt and MS have reacted, and reacted exceedingly
>> well, but it'll take time.
>>
>> Reason 2: Kinda sad that Apple consistently get kudos for implementing
>> EAS better than anyone - including MS at times :-(
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 10:03 AM, justino garcia <jgarciaitl...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Why are IT shops not promoting windows mobile or WIndows Phones?
>>> If this devices won't screw up Exchange accounts or Outlook???
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Michael B. Smith <mich...@smithcons.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  There are only two that come close. Windows Mobile and Windows Phone.*
>>>> ***
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> A close third is TouchDown. As far as I know and have been told, what
>>>> it implements, it implements properly. But it doesn’t implement everything.
>>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> All other licensees have, at a minimum, message fidelity issues (which
>>>> can lead to item corruption) and, at worst, they flat out delete items of
>>>> various types when they shouldn’t.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Regards,****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Michael B. Smith****
>>>>
>>>> Consultant and Exchange MVP****
>>>>
>>>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* pramatow...@mediageneral.com [mailto:
>>>> pramatow...@mediageneral.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 2:41 PM
>>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010****
>>>>
>>>>  ** **
>>>>
>>>> What our shop supports: ****
>>>>
>>>> Company devices – there’s a short list, determined more by price than
>>>> does the device play well****
>>>>
>>>> User devices- Can be **anything******
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> [1] Company purchased BB’s all go on BES.****
>>>>
>>>> [2] Company purchased smartphones and iDevs can go on a GOOD server.  *
>>>> ***
>>>>
>>>> [3] Company or user purchased smartphones and iDevs can use EAS.  ****
>>>>
>>>> And, if anyone wants to use the browser on the above devices to access
>>>> OWA, have at it <g>)****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> About the only thing we don’t do/support is putting a user purchased BB
>>>> on the BES.****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> Our only requirement for EAS is this :****
>>>>
>>>> Only devices that fully support ActiveSync are allowed ****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> I don’t even know what the above line means K****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:57 PM
>>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010****
>>>>
>>>> ** **
>>>>
>>>> So IT shops are not supporting none Office suppiled devices, and office
>>>> suppiled devices are blackberries or windows mobile....\****
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 8:12 PM, <pramatow...@mediageneral.com> wrote:*
>>>> ***
>>>>
>>>> + 1. I was thinking this same thing as I as forwarding MBS's message to
>>>> someone I know. BB has taken hits lately for everything from outages to CEO
>>>> asshattery but for an enterprise situation I still think they have it.
>>>> Depending on what you use it for anyway. I feel with bb at least you get a
>>>> fairly level playing field as opposed to different vendors implementing
>>>> "standards" differently (and not just iDevs).
>>>>
>>>> I might be limited in that I'm in a support role and not havening to
>>>> show off the latest integration with FB/twitfeed/whatever at a sales thing,
>>>> or impress someone with the latest gadget at a business meeting but I want
>>>> a bb. To each their own I guess. I have to support it all because some
>>>> folks are out there trying to make money/sales, some make more$ than me so
>>>> what can I say, and some have them just because they can.
>>>>
>>>> So it goes.
>>>> /2¥ opinion
>>>>
>>>> Blackberry
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> *From*: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com]
>>>> *Sent*: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 06:45 PM
>>>> *To*: MS-Exchange Admin Issues <exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
>>>>
>>>> *Subject*: RE: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> <Opinion on>****
>>>>
>>>> iToys are consumer devices – consumer devices concentrate on easy, fun,
>>>> neatsy-cutesy, games and any attempts at non-native protocols or security
>>>> are half hearted and voluntary.  ****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Attempts to use them as enterprise devices frequently result in issues
>>>> like this and worse.****
>>>>
>>>> <Opinion off>****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 24, 2012 6:25 AM
>>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I am using a IOS device and MS outlook 2007.
>>>> IS it a bug with having a IOS device?****
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Michael B. Smith <
>>>> mich...@smithcons.com> wrote:****
>>>>
>>>> You using an iOS device too?****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Regards,****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> Michael B. Smith****
>>>>
>>>> Consultant and Exchange MVP****
>>>>
>>>> http://TheEssentialExchange.com****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> *From:* justino garcia [mailto:jgarciaitl...@gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 23, 2012 12:46 PM
>>>> *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
>>>> *Subject:* Bug trying to send Update to a Cal event in OWA 2010****
>>>>
>>>>  ****
>>>>
>>>> The time of the meeting has changed. You must Click "Send Update" to
>>>> save changes and send updates to meeting attendees.
>>>>
>>>> Any seen this, that they are unable to send an update in Exhchange 2010
>>>> OWA?
>>>>
>>>> I created a event, and changed / modify subject and time and day, and I
>>>> can't send update to people I invited.
>>>>
>>>> Exchange 2010 latest sp
>>>>
>>>> Justino
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