Don, 

This mailing list is MORE than helpful to those who offer real offers.....not 
things that are dressed up as offers yet more expensive than can be bought in 
discounted shops nowadays.

I understand your point but I think it's helpful for potential purshasers to 
know that this really isn't a good deal.

Not everyone had your 16 years or my 14 years of experience here.

Regards,

Nick




________________________________
From: Donald Craig <[email protected]>
To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009 13:11:51
Subject: RE: Expat List  OBO?

 
I
am a 16 vet of Moscowand a 48 year old expat, so
let me help you out.
 
 “OBO” Stands for - Or Best
Offer 
 
The
term is used a lot stateside. You guys seem to be taking the piss out of
somebody for no reason, if you think the price is to high
just make an offer for Christ’s sake. It is a pain to move as you all know, I 
don’t even know these people but have some compassion
will ya. The Expat sites
and lists are meant to be an aid to assist people, not cause them grief.
 
Don
has just now jumped off of his Podium, and left the building.
 
 
Don Craig
OfficescapeProjects Limited 
Old
Arbat Street 16/2, Building 3 
Second Floor 
Moscow 
119002 
Russian
Federation 
Tel. 495 232 9902
Fax 495 232 9897
Mob
89165550789
E-mail [email protected]
Website www.officescape.ru 
 
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Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
[email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009
10:23 AM
To: The Moscow Expat List
Subject: Expat List OBO?
 

Sorry people but what does OBO mean? I've never heard
it before and I'm a 50 year old expat. 
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REF:- Hi all,

I'm looking for some advice on Russian language courses? Are there any you
would recommend in Moscow? Is 1-2-1 tuition a better way to go? 

I've been in Russia for some time now but I'd still rate my level as beginner. 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 

I
had two different 1-2-1 teachers. I would reccommend them over a class as you
get things explained to you when you don't understand and can go faster on
things that you do understand. 

However,
After 2 1/2 years of Russian lessons I gave up when I started to get deep into
Russian Grammar. :-(    (Adjective endings! Oh My GOD!) 

Good
luck Nick 

Julian 



Micah Risk <[email protected]>  
Sent by: [email protected]   
19/01/2009 13:48 
Please respond to:
The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>   To The Moscow Expat List 
<[email protected]>  
cc   
Subject Re: Expat List Moving Sale- Furniture, Brand new Entertainment         
system, kitchen, etc 
 
     



Well apparently you did not read thoroughly, or maybe you dont understand the
point of OBO. The point of selling things like this is, if people are
interested, they tell you what they are willing to pay. People are not idiots,
they know what a moving sale means. Or maybe I should expect to hold hands with
people through an OBO offer. 

2009/1/16 Nick REES <[email protected]> 
Micah,

I don't know whether you think people are fools on here (and I know you've
written "or best offer") but reducing your prices less than 20% for
stuff about a year old when the stores themselves are now reducing by more is
taking the piss a bit.

If this stuff is used and in good condition, usually people would expect to see
around about a 50% discount.

If people go online, they'll get better deals for brand new items at the
moment!

Nick




________________________________
 
From:Micah
Risk <[email protected]>
To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 16 January, 2009 5:49:55
Subject: Expat List Moving Sale- Furniture, Brand new Entertainment
system, kitchen, etc 

We are moving out of Moscow and need to sell all of our stuff. Everything is
under 1 year old, and only used by 2 people for part of the year (or some of it
is not used at all!). So everything is still in excellent or good used
condition. We will be gone by mid-February, but are hoping to start selling the
things we do not use often. Located in the Izmaylova region. 
  
  
  
IKEA furniture:

Red Corner couch (extremely comfortable!) seats at least 6 with
matching ottoman - new at Ikea 31 490 rubles +  4 990 rubles ; $1,124 +
$179
http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/S69839459 + 
http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/S09828388
Selling for $900 OBO

Dark wood bookcase(beautiful!!!) with glass doors plus additional
matching shelfing- Total: 20 960 r $747
Large shelves X2- 3 690 rubles each = 7 380r $263 
http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/20094031
Glass doors X4- 1600 rubles each = 6400 r $228 
http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/60104085
Side sections X2- 2 690 rubles each = 5 380r $192 
http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/20096431
Height extender X2- 900 rubles each = 1 800r $64 
http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/53689310
Selling for $600 OBO  
                     
                     
     
         
6 DrawerDresser- 11 990 r $428 
http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/30088572
$370 OBO
Wardrobe with sliding doors- $470 
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S99850921 (with horizontal pole 
across both sides and pants rack that slides out) will
include hangers
$400 OBO

Modern Wood Bed + Mattress- Full size $500
Others:
-Pillows for couch and bed, down comforter & 2 sets of
sheets/pillowcases/comforter cover- $200 
-1 Extra brand new down comforter,never taken out of packaging,$145
-6 Set of Glass food containers- $36 new 
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40112543
-Ikea 8 Glass spice containers-  
http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/00030262 (like this but completely 
round)
-Ikea silver mixing bowls
-Ikea pans- nonstick wok, nonstick frying pan- medium and large sizes- make an
offer
Other Ikea stuff- large strainer, cooking utensils, can opener, knife set, etc 
all of the appliance/kitchen stuff will be
sold by best offer. 
Entertainment System Summary: 
1. AV Receiver: Yamaha
Ampli-Tuner Audio Video
Model: RX-V459
New, never been opened. (MSRP was $400) 

This Yamaha RX-V459 is any Home Theater buff's dream!! 
It has VERY clean bass and plenty of cranking power 
The RX-V459 has everything you need without any over
kill. 
Even has a place to plug in your MP3 player and listen to it just like any
other component you'd 
The setup is very straight forward and well documented in the manual
IF what I have found on the web is correct I believe the RX-V459 is a late 2007
early 2008 model? 
Bottom line: 
If you want a super clean sounding unit without a ton of buttons...reasonable
price with lots of features...top notch quality inside and out...this Yamaha is
the way to go. 
Trust me it won't take long for you to fall in love with it! 
Strengths:
The usual super Yamaha quality build and sound. 
Easy to navigate and setup. 
Plenty of features without being overwhelming!!! 
Place to plug in your MP3 player. 
(Don't see this on the higher end units for some reason) 
I like the -80db to +80db volume setup. 
At -27db it's pretty loud and ya haven't even got to 0db yet!! 
  
2. InfinityBeta HCS
Complete 6-piece Home theater and music loudspeaker system
200 mm (8"), 100-watt, compact powered subwoofer w/ CMMD drivers
Four magnetically shielded, 2-way satellites w/ CMMD drivers
2-way, magnetically shielded, voice-matched center speakers w/ CMMD drivers
MSRP: $1500
Also never taken out of the box, but bought as a display model so I'm willing
to knock the price down to $1200
It's a really great system. Check out the following links if you're interested:
1. Product Specifications: 
http://www.infinitysystems.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=BETAHCS/230&ser=BET&Language=ENG&Region=EUROPE&Country=FI
Both links have photos. 
2. Description: http://www.infinityloudspeakers.com.au/beta.html 

Again, these are in perfect condition, and haven't been used. 
If you buy them together I'll throw in
another bonus and sell both for $1500 out of convenience. 



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