Hi

I wholly agree with Don Craig, I have had a couple of replies to posts
that were not at all helpful just nit picking at the details, no
helpful at all. Indeed this forum can be helpful to those seeking
information. People do not wish to engage in mental kempo, online.

Jim Byrne

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2009/1/21 Nick REES <[email protected]>:
> Don,
>
> This mailing list is MORE than helpful to those who offer real
> offers.....not things that are dressed up as offers yet more expensive than
> can be bought in discounted shops nowadays.
>
> I understand your point but I think it's helpful for potential purshasers to
> know that this really isn't a good deal.
>
> Not everyone had your 16 years or my 14 years of experience here.
>
> Regards,
>
> Nick
>
> ________________________________
> From: Donald Craig <[email protected]>
> To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 January, 2009 13:11:51
> Subject: RE: Expat List OBO?
>
> I am a 16 vet of Moscow and a 48 year old expat, so let me help you out.
>
>
>
>  "OBO" Stands for - Or Best Offer
>
>
>
> The term is used a lot stateside. You guys seem to be taking the piss out of
> somebody for no reason, if you think the price is to high just make an offer
> for Christ's sake. It is a pain to move as you all know, I don't even know
> these people but have some compassion will ya. The Expat sites and lists are
> meant to be an aid to assist people, not cause them grief.
>
>
>
> Don has just now jumped off of his Podium, and left the building.
>
>
>
>
>
> Don Craig
>
> Officescape Projects Limited
> Old Arbat Street 16/2, Building 3
> Second Floor
> Moscow 119002
> Russian Federation
> Tel. 495 232 9902
> Fax 495 232 9897
>
> Mob 89165550789
> E-mail [email protected]
>
> Website www.officescape.ru
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> [email protected]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:23 AM
> To: The Moscow Expat List
> Subject: Expat List OBO?
>
>
>
> Sorry people but what does OBO mean? I've never heard it before and I'm a 50
> year old expat.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> REF:- Hi all,
>
> I'm looking for some advice on Russian language courses? Are there any you
> would recommend in Moscow? Is 1-2-1 tuition a better way to go?
>
> I've been in Russia for some time now but I'd still rate my level as
> beginner.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> I had two different 1-2-1 teachers. I would reccommend them over a class as
> you get things explained to you when you don't understand and can go faster
> on things that you do understand.
>
> However, After 2 1/2 years of Russian lessons I gave up when I started to
> get deep into Russian Grammar. :-(    (Adjective endings! Oh My GOD!)
>
> Good luck Nick
>
> Julian
>
>
> Micah Risk <[email protected]>
> Sent by: [email protected]
>
> 19/01/2009 13:48
>
> Please respond to:
> The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
>
> To
>
> The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
>
> Re: Expat List Moving Sale- Furniture, Brand new Entertainment
> system, kitchen, etc
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Well apparently you did not read thoroughly, or maybe you dont understand
> the point of OBO. The point of selling things like this is, if people are
> interested, they tell you what they are willing to pay. People are not
> idiots, they know what a moving sale means. Or maybe I should expect to hold
> hands with people through an OBO offer.
>
> 2009/1/16 Nick REES <[email protected]>
> Micah,
>
> I don't know whether you think people are fools on here (and I know you've
> written "or best offer") but reducing your prices less than 20% for stuff
> about a year old when the stores themselves are now reducing by more is
> taking the piss a bit.
>
> If this stuff is used and in good condition, usually people would expect to
> see around about a 50% discount.
>
> If people go online, they'll get better deals for brand new items at the
> moment!
>
> Nick
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Micah Risk <[email protected]>
> To: The Moscow Expat List <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, 16 January, 2009 5:49:55
> Subject: Expat List Moving Sale- Furniture, Brand new Entertainment system,
> kitchen, etc
>
> We are moving out of Moscow and need to sell all of our stuff. Everything is
> under 1 year old, and only used by 2 people for part of the year (or some of
> it is not used at all!). So everything is still in excellent or good used
> condition. We will be gone by mid-February, but are hoping to start selling
> the things we do not use often. Located in the Izmaylova region.
>
>
>
> IKEA furniture:
>
> Red Corner couch (extremely comfortable!) seats at least 6 with matching
> ottoman - new at Ikea 31 490 rubles +  4 990 rubles ; $1,124 + $179
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/S69839459 +
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/S09828388
> Selling for $900 OBO
>
> Dark wood bookcase(beautiful!!!) with glass doors plus additional matching
> shelfing- Total: 20 960 r $747
> Large shelves X2- 3 690 rubles each = 7 380r $263
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/20094031
> Glass doors X4- 1600 rubles each = 6400 r $228
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/60104085
> Side sections X2- 2 690 rubles each = 5 380r $192
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/20096431
> Height extender X2- 900 rubles each = 1 800r $64
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/53689310
> Selling for $600 OBO
>
> 6 DrawerDresser- 11 990 r $428
> http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/30088572
> $370 OBO
> Wardrobe with sliding doors- $470
> http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S99850921 (with horizontal pole
> across both sides and pants rack that slides out) will include hangers
> $400 OBO
>
> Modern Wood Bed + Mattress- Full size $500
> Others:
> -Pillows for couch and bed, down comforter & 2 sets of
> sheets/pillowcases/comforter cover- $200
> -1 Extra brand new down comforter,never taken out of packaging, $145
> -6 Set of Glass food containers- $36 new
> http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/40112543
> -Ikea 8 Glass spice containers-
>  http://www.ikea.com/ru/ru/catalog/products/00030262 (like this but
> completely round)
> -Ikea silver mixing bowls
> -Ikea pans- nonstick wok, nonstick frying pan- medium and large sizes- make
> an offer
> Other Ikea stuff- large strainer, cooking utensils, can opener, knife set,
> etc
> all of the appliance/kitchen stuff will be sold by best offer.
>
> Entertainment System Summary:
>
> 1. AV Receiver: Yamaha
> Ampli-Tuner Audio Video
> Model: RX-V459
> New, never been opened. (MSRP was $400)
>
> This Yamaha RX-V459 is any Home Theater buff's dream!!
> It has VERY clean bass and plenty of cranking power
>
> The RX-V459 has everything you need without any over kill.
> Even has a place to plug in your MP3 player and listen to it just like any
> other component you'd
> The setup is very straight forward and well documented in the manual
> IF what I have found on the web is correct I believe the RX-V459 is a late
> 2007 early 2008 model?
> Bottom line:
> If you want a super clean sounding unit without a ton of
> buttons...reasonable price with lots of features...top notch quality inside
> and out...this Yamaha is the way to go.
> Trust me it won't take long for you to fall in love with it!
> Strengths:
> The usual super Yamaha quality build and sound.
> Easy to navigate and setup.
> Plenty of features without being overwhelming!!!
> Place to plug in your MP3 player.
> (Don't see this on the higher end units for some reason)
> I like the -80db to +80db volume setup.
> At -27db it's pretty loud and ya haven't even got to 0db yet!!
>
> 2. Infinity Beta HCS
> Complete 6-piece Home theater and music loudspeaker system
> 200 mm (8"), 100-watt, compact powered subwoofer w/ CMMD drivers
> Four magnetically shielded, 2-way satellites w/ CMMD drivers
> 2-way, magnetically shielded, voice-matched center speakers w/ CMMD drivers
> MSRP: $1500
> Also never taken out of the box, but bought as a display model so I'm
> willing to knock the price down to $1200
> It's a really great system. Check out the following links if you're
> interested:
> 1. Product Specifications:
> http://www.infinitysystems.com/home/products/product_detail.aspx?prod=BETAHCS/230&ser=BET&Language=ENG&Region=EUROPE&Country=FI
> Both links have photos.
> 2. Description: http://www.infinityloudspeakers.com.au/beta.html
>
> Again, these are in perfect condition, and haven't been used.
> If you buy them together I'll throw in another bonus and sell both for $1500
> out of convenience.
>
>
>
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> --
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>
>
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