On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Mallard wrote: > Why did Mandrake pick the most geekyist editor for a setup that is > suposto be easy for users? It's the unix tradition :) > > Anyone else seen this joke of a program? > Yes, and I use it almost daily > With Vim all you have to do is spend a half hour trying to get it give > you help, then scroll all the way to the bottom of a super long > whoopy-do list of usless keyboard commands that you will forget a day > after you use them. Please get rid of it! > It's a bit strange at first, but when you use it a lot, it is very logically designed. > thinking? Do they live on this planet? Why does Mandrake support this? > Trash it! > Can't, vi should be a minimal part of every Linux distro, it is standard on any Unix system. > I don't know who thinks this is some great thing, WOW! It has zillions > of features! It's not 1982 anymore, we have word processors that have a > better human interface than terminals did, get a life geeks! (directed > at the guys who wrote and keep updating "vi" and "vim") > It's the only editor that behaves right on weird terminals such as the crappy Micro$oft telnet. > Why not make the default editor a nice simple one, like maybe pico, > where the commands are shown. I can't see anyone using a command line > editor for much else than a few simple changes, there are better simple > editors in KDE and such. Damn that really pissed me off, and on top of > that you guys changed from "vi" (same stupid geeky crap) to "vim" (worse > geeky crap) in 7.1 did someone request this? I want to know who! > That may be ok for beginners, but a hard core sys admin wants vi. > Sorry for the bandwith waste, had to get this off my chest. Anyone else > feel like I do about this? > This post is asking for a flame when put on expert groups, but I see the purpose of an easier editor for beginners. However, Mandrake has a large audience to satisfy, including hard core UNIX people. Vi has established itself as the standard editor, and it is not easily going to be displaced. -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aug 14
