On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, you wrote: > What's so hard about that? Even the old DOS "edit.exe" wasn't > any easier. > If that's too hard to learn how to do, the person isn't a newbie, > they're an idiot. > > Yes, I know there are advanced features that require learning a little > more to use, but by the time I need them I've fixed the conf file that > was preventing me from starting X, and I use a GUI editor, which is > what all the whiners seem to want, anyway. If i'm in X I use KDE's text editor, if not, I like MC. I'm a long time newbie and the choice and diffrences in editors was readily apparent to me. I don't think from a new users perspective Mandrake needs to change anything. The reason I bothered to vote tho, is to mention that for dual booters (win/Linux) that many newbie's are, Windoze 'edit' is great for converting UNIX style text to DOS (ie, the \n deal). Just open a UNIX txt file with edit and it will appear properly formatted, then just save it to the same file name and presto, it's a DOS file. -- ~~ Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]