Orlando:

I solved the problem as the linked message indicated.  The box is fine now. 
Whatever LM did to change the way that CD's are linked upon installation (i.e.,
at the creation of the devfs.config file) must have taken place between Mandrake
8.0 and 8.1.  Previously, I had loaded 8.0 on the laptop and had no problems
whatsoever.  Not so with 8.1.  I don't know if Mandrake opens up its
installation programs.  We might be able to figure it out.  As you have had a
problem, I have had a problem, and the guy who created the other message had a
problem, then there might be a bug and we should consider alerting the Mandrake
crew.  If it worked correctly in 8.0, I would have expected no problems with
8.1.  What I need to check is my other box, which has two cd-roms on it.  I'll
check the devfs.conf file, and /dev files and see what happended there.

One thing, however.  There seems to have been a change in the way that the
security issues are handled for devices such as floppies and cdroms.  I noticed
that when I set the security level to medium, that I used to (or at least had
the option to) log in as root and mount manually.  Now, if I insert the CD and
it seems to be automounting because if I mount manually, I get a message
indicating that the device is busy.  I don't know if the security setting (upon
installation) has anything to do with it, but it is something to consider.

Unfortunately, with 8.1 I have had some annoying problem on the two machines on
which it is installed.  The CD on the laptop and a problem with the shutdown
procedure on another machine.  I still haven't figured out the problem on the
other machine, but noticed that it is linked to whether or not I have stopped
the network card (ifdown eth0).  If I don't do anything to the card, shutdown
proceeds normally.  If I shut down the card and leave it down when I invoke
shutdown -h now, then it hangs at some point.  If I shut down the card and then
bring it back up (ifup eth0) and then invoke the shutdown routine, it hangs
somewhere else.

At times I wonder that if it is going for so many different platforms, that
Mandrake is going to start to have all of the configuration issues that
Microsoft has.  

Thanks again for your pointing out the message.  I would be happy to correspond
with you in the future.  One of my neighbors is from Brazil.

Best wishes,

Ron

> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Gentlemen:
> > 
> > I believe that our Brazilian friend has hit the nail on the head.  I did a
> > search of the mailing list of expert (before I started this thread) but
didn't
> > find the one he mentioned below.  My own thoughts of what the problem was
> > clouded my choice of search criteria -- to my detriment.  Lesson learned. 
In
> > any case, Muchas Gracias! (Which is as close to Portuguese as I can get,
please
> > accept my apologies for not knowing the correct translation.)
> 
> In portuguese itīs "muito obrigado" :-)
> 
> but still looking for a more complete explanation of your problem... I read
some
> time ago about some important reason that changed the way that a CDROM (or all
> IDE devices?) is linked in LM... I just couldn't find that message in my
> computer and I hadn't time to do a proper search for it, so I just sent the
> message that helped me to solve my problem and now solved yours...
> 
> orlando
> 
> > 
> > Just to see if it was on the right track, I did a search of /dev and found
an
> > entry for cdrom2 (as well as the symbolic link for cdrom).  Sure enough...
> > 
> > >mount /dev/cdrom2 /mnt/cdrom
> > worked like a charm.
> > I'll follow the instructions given in the link and fix the box.
> > Many thanks to all!
> > Best wishes,
> > Ron
> > > look that message:
> > > http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/msg43118.html
> > >
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Charles A Edwards wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2001 14:16:45 GMT
> > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Larry:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The fstab file looks okay (to me at least).  However, even though
the
> > CD
> > > > is
> > > > > > > working fine (under Windows and the CD was used to install Mdk
8.1) it
> > > > currently
> > > > > > > doesn't work under Mdk.  Here are the contents of the /etc/fstab
file:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /dev/hda4 / reiserfs noatime,notail 1 1
> > > > > > > /dev/hda3 /boot ext2 noatime 1 2
> > > > > > > none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
> > > > > > > none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
> > > > > > > /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto
> > > > user,iocharset=iso8859-1,exec,codepage=850,ro,noauto 0
> > > > > > > 0
> > > > > > > /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto
> > > > user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto
> > > > > > > 0 0
> > > > > > > /dev/fd1 /mnt/floppy2 auto
> > > > > > > user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0
> > > > > > > /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850 0 0
> > > > > > > none /proc proc defaults 0 0
> > > > > > > /dev/hda2 swap swap defaults 0 0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: Larry Sword [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2001 11:43 PM
> > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Can't use CD-ROM on Toshiba laptop with Mdk
8.1
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I've loaded Mandrake 8.1 on a Toshiba Satellite 2545XCDT.  While
the
> > > > install
> > > > > > > > with 8.0 worked without a hitch (many months ago), the same
can't be
> > > > said for
> > > > > > > > 8.1.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > First, let me point out that upgrading has been quite easy and,
> > aside
> > > > from the
> > > > > > > > CD-ROM hitch, almost trouble free.  Putting a journalling file
> > system on
> > > > this
> > > > > > > > older laptop gives the user-interatction some well needed pep.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The problem that I'm getting is that /dev/cdrom will not allow a
> > mount.
> > > > There
> > > > > > > > is a symbolic link from /dev/cdrom to hdc, but that doesn't
work.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > .. does not work.  The error message is "mount: special device
cdrom
> > > > does not
> > > > > > > > exist"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you are trying to mount the drive with either of the above
commands
> > then
> > > > > > that is why it will not work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 8.1 uses devfs the correct command is mount /mnt/cdrom
> > > > > > To unmount either umount /mnt/cdrom or eject /mnt/cdrom
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >     Charles
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, either command should work.
> > > > >
> > > > > mount /dev/hdc
> > > > > or
> > > > > mount /mnt/cdrom
> > > > >
> > > > > Assuming that the correct links exist in the /dev and the mount points
> > > > > are correct.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, I get the same result if you type mount /dev/hdc or if you type
mount
> > > > /mnt/cdrom.  In both cases, the first time I execute the command, I get
a
> > > > segmentation fault.  The second time, it just hangs.
> > > >
> > > > According to the listing in /dev, hdc has...
> > > >
> > > > >ls -l /dev/hdc
> > > > lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 30 Oct 22 07:00 hdc ->
> > /ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/cd
> > > >
> > > > (Note, the /ide... is highlighted in black on the terminal (set to
> > transparent
> > > > konsole.)
> > > >
> > > > >ls -l /dev/cdrom
> > > > lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root 16 Oct 22 07:00 cdrom -> ../cdroms/cdrom0
> > > >
> > > > (Note, the "cdrom" and the "../cdroms/cdrom0" are flashing red on the
> > konsole.)
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again for your suggestions,
> > > >
> > > > Ron
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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