Franki,

Well then, I guess I'm just unlucky. (Un)fortunatelly I'm
not the only one (misery loves company ;-)).

Oh well, I'll keep at it for a little longer.

BTW, pentium Pro200 w/ 96Mbytes is _not_ crap
Try a Cyrix P200+ w/ 64 MBytes and drive of 1.5 Giga
for measure !

Thanx,
Hugo.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Franki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Linux Mandrake Expert Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: [expert] 8.1 Piece of Crap!


> well, supermount has been gone into, so that doesn't require explanation
> again.
> I have no problem with Cd's, I always used mount and umount anyway, so it
> made
> no differce to me.
>
> 8.1 is fairly stable at this end, I have an uptime of 30 days, no
problems.
>
> Its not noticably slower then 7.2 on my box here, which is an old piece of
> crap
> Pentium Pro200, 96MB ram...
>
> My sound was detected at install, and has worked ever since...
>
> I don't actually have any complaints right now...
>
> there are some annoyances, but nothing huge..
>
>
>
> rgds
>
> Frank
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hugo Ferreira
> Sent: Thursday, 29 November 2001 5:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [expert] 8.1 Piece of Crap!
>
>
> Ron,
>
> >
> >> 8.1 in order to get the CDRW to work. 8.1 seems to break stuff. These
> >> problems probably can be fixed but an upgrade should never break
> >> stuff that's already working on an earlier version.
> >
> >True, and I hope that Mdk works on that.  Note, though, that big,
> >whole-system upgrades are fraught with peril.  It's hit-or-miss
> >with all OSs.  Left-over libraries, changed file locations, etc.,
> >all conspire to make upgrades chancy.
>
> Then maybe you can explain (it's a question, not criticism):
> 1. Why complaints are rampant in the newbie's list (I'm one of them) for
> fresh
> installs.
> 2. Why things that seemed to work, gradually stop working (personally
> happens to me,
> and I'm careful not to mess around w/ "su").
> 3. Why most complaints are directed at: CDs (R or RW), floppy mounts,
media
> players and
> the forever illusive sound.
> 4. Why people complaint that machines that worked just fine with previous
> versions of Mkd
> are now slow.
>
> Hmmm, was this a vent too ? 8-0
>
> Someone else said (once again it's a question):
> "I must say the original Download version is somewhat buggy (compiling
> etc...), but the PowerPack which I recently purchased seems to fix a lot
of
> the problems.  Mind you it could be a marketing ploy ;-)."
>
> Anyone, anymore comments on this? After all I download this stuff to test
> it. If it's not good
> I don't want it, and if it's not available for download I can't test it. I
> know, I know "good" is
> so subjective... ;-)
>
> Ken and anyone else, I would like to compare some answers to these
> questions:
>
> 1. What's your hardware like (an oldie, RAM)?
> 2. What is your install source (iso images, bought and paid for CDs)?
> 3. What type of problem do you have (initial install, upgrade,
post-install
> administration or just standard usage)?
>
> BTW, stupid question, where's the link that a newbie may report bugs to?
>
> Can anyone confirm/deny these problems:
>
> 1. Creating boot floppies generates empty initrd.img.
> 2. DMA time-outs on prevouslly working Chipsets/drives.
> 3. Sound card correctly detected but not working.
> 4. Access to CD not correctly set-up (permissions and).
> 5. Using command line configuration, KDE configuration and/or Mdk's
> configuration seems to wreak havoc on the system.
>
> TIA.
> Hugo.
>
>
>
>
>
>


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