then again, maybe some of us should consider that the free lunches in life are prepared by someone, and served by some one, do you not tip a waiteress? or maybe the should not bother to bring your food since they only "might" get tipped? how dumd could it be to try and make a living thru the normally good graces of folks. I also wonder if you consider that you should pay for cable tv since the wire is already at the house?
On Wednesday 13 March 2002 01:54, you wrote: > There seems to be a movement to "guilt" linux users into paying for > linux these days since it's so good but we didn't buy it. If I wanted > to pay for an OS, I would. I don't so I use linux. Linux vendors like > Mandrake should not have tried to become profitable corporations by > selling a product anyone can legally get for free. > > Darren > > On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 16:08, James wrote: > > On this note a comment if I may... > > > > I've seen a lot of talk about free as in beer. Well don't know where > > you come from but in my neck of the woods beer that is free today > > requires that I buy a round later. In my business I'm trying to Sell > > software management. To many of the VAR's (Value Added Resellers) I see > > just buy a single copy of RH or Mandrake and then install it on box after > > box, after box. To make matters worse they expect RH and Mandrake to > > support it. Partially this is in my opinion the distro's own fault, > > because in the past they have supported it. I've bought every box set > > since 7.0 and one per box I install it on. Why because I don't expect MD > > or anyone else to support software that I didn't buy. From my view > > Mandrake needs the following. > > > > 1. DON'T even think about supporting users who don't buy the copy. Free > > support in the e-mail groups ok... but if they call........ sell em a > > support contract. > > > > 2. Improve the ability to upgrade a running system. I've got several 7.1 > > and 7,2 systems that I'd love to upgrade but can't afford the time to > > rebuild them after a wipe and install. Data gets in the way. (One box > > has over 5 gigs of Twiki pages alone.) This costs Mandrake money because > > I'm not buying box sets, but rather upgrading manually a piece at a time. > > > > 3. CO-OP advertising. SuSe RH and Mandrake are all in a bit of a bind. > > Why not pool the funds so to speak and do Linux adds... Scene opens a guy > > asleep in bed. Words appear on the screen. > > > > This is your IT dept at 1am.... thanks to Linux. > > > > > > Just my 2 cents.... > > > > James > > > > *** Amazon.com save 17 million last quarter by switching to Linux..... > > why is your company still running that other OS? > > > > On 12 Mar 2002 21:13:12 -0500 > > > > Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 10:55, Dave Salovesh wrote: > > > > First, my apologies to any here who may have already heard this > > > > through other channels, and I also ask your forgiveness if I've > > > > missed a thread here where this is being discussed. And lastly, I > > > > hope you don't worry that it might not be most inappropriate for a > > > > part-time Mandrake nobody and full-time NT/2000/MS-SQL/IIS admin to > > > > bring this up. > > > > > > Unfortunately I did not see your post, and posted an alternative story > > > on The Register to the list. But I'm glad that others are taking note > > > of this and taking it to heart. I too think it would be very bad for > > > everybody as a whole and especially bad for the members of this list if > > > MandrakeSoft hit a wall. I think it's time for anybody that cares to > > > become active in their support of MandrakeSoft. > > > > > > Loki bit the dust recently, with some employees not having gotten a > > > paycheck since sometime in 2000. Can anyone say "loyalty?" Mission > > > Critical Linux went down, with the loss of 55 employees. The financial > > > burden is a cross that the Linux world needs to learn how to bear; and > > > fast; it's not too late. MandrakeSoft itself is now activating it's > > > warning lights to give everyone a heads up. > > > > > > The now-unemployed people loved their companies. Their dedication was > > > plain to see. How dedicated are you when you cut back on your groceries > > > for two years just to keep working? For free? > > > > > > I feel that the people of MandrakeSoft are no different with respect > > > for the love they have both for their distribution and their company; > > > it shines through in the product that they produce. If we want to > > > preserve this corporate identity in our marketplace, and continue to > > > enjoy the Mandrake releases, then I personally believe it's time for > > > those of us that care enough to show our support for Mandrake by > > > joining the club. > > > > > > At one time, Windows sold for 200 US$ a copy. For that much money, you > > > could have a 3.3 year subscription to the Mandrake club. It's only 5$ > > > a month; less than the cost of alot of magazine subscriptions. > > > > > > See: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/mdkfuture.php3 > > > > > > > It seems Mandrake is coming into a financially rough stretch. From > > > > their announcement: > > > > > > > > "Even though all of us here at MandrakeSoft are excited about the > > > > upcoming release, we've also been distracted by financial concerns. > > > > Despite continuous good reviews in the press; despite having millions > > > > of users throughout the world; despite producing an award-winning > > > > Linux distribution that is a solid competitor to both UNIX and > > > > Window$, the Mandrake Linux distribution's short-term future is in > > > > jeopardy due to a simple factor: money." > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > ---- > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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