On 13 Mar 2002 17:54:14 +1100 Darren King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There seems to be a movement to "guilt" linux users into paying for > linux these days since it's so good but we didn't buy it. If I wanted > to pay for an OS, I would. I don't so I use linux. Linux vendors like > Mandrake should not have tried to become profitable corporations by > selling a product anyone can legally get for free. > > Darren ummmmmmm and what other kind of company is there besides profitable... oh yeah.... a dot bomb..... forgot about those. > > On Wed, 2002-03-13 at 16:08, James wrote: > > On this note a comment if I may... > > > > I've seen a lot of talk about free as in beer. Well don't know where you come >from but in my neck of the woods beer that is free today requires that I buy a round >later. In my business I'm trying to Sell software management. To many of the VAR's >(Value Added Resellers) I see just buy a single copy of RH or Mandrake and then >install it on box after box, after box. To make matters worse they expect RH and >Mandrake to support it. Partially this is in my opinion the distro's own fault, >because in the past they have supported it. I've bought every box set since 7.0 and >one per box I install it on. Why because I don't expect MD or anyone else to support >software that I didn't buy. From my view Mandrake needs the following. > > > > 1. DON'T even think about supporting users who don't buy the copy. Free support >in the e-mail groups ok... but if they call........ sell em a support contract. > > > > 2. Improve the ability to upgrade a running system. I've got several 7.1 and 7,2 >systems that I'd love to upgrade but can't afford the time to rebuild them after a >wipe and install. Data gets in the way. (One box has over 5 gigs of Twiki pages >alone.) This costs Mandrake money because I'm not buying box sets, but rather >upgrading manually a piece at a time. > > > > 3. CO-OP advertising. SuSe RH and Mandrake are all in a bit of a bind. Why not >pool the funds so to speak and do Linux adds... Scene opens a guy asleep in bed. >Words appear on the screen. > > > > This is your IT dept at 1am.... thanks to Linux. > > > > > > Just my 2 cents.... > > > > James > > > > *** Amazon.com save 17 million last quarter by switching to Linux..... why is your >company still running that other OS? > > > > On 12 Mar 2002 21:13:12 -0500 > > Lyvim Xaphir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2002-03-12 at 10:55, Dave Salovesh wrote: > > > > First, my apologies to any here who may have already heard this through > > > > other channels, and I also ask your forgiveness if I've missed a thread here > > > > where this is being discussed. And lastly, I hope you don't worry that it > > > > might not be most inappropriate for a part-time Mandrake nobody and > > > > full-time NT/2000/MS-SQL/IIS admin to bring this up. > > > > > > Unfortunately I did not see your post, and posted an alternative story > > > on The Register to the list. But I'm glad that others are taking note > > > of this and taking it to heart. I too think it would be very bad for > > > everybody as a whole and especially bad for the members of this list if > > > MandrakeSoft hit a wall. I think it's time for anybody that cares to > > > become active in their support of MandrakeSoft. > > > > > > Loki bit the dust recently, with some employees not having gotten a > > > paycheck since sometime in 2000. Can anyone say "loyalty?" Mission > > > Critical Linux went down, with the loss of 55 employees. The financial > > > burden is a cross that the Linux world needs to learn how to bear; and > > > fast; it's not too late. MandrakeSoft itself is now activating it's > > > warning lights to give everyone a heads up. > > > > > > The now-unemployed people loved their companies. Their dedication was > > > plain to see. How dedicated are you when you cut back on your groceries > > > for two years just to keep working? For free? > > > > > > I feel that the people of MandrakeSoft are no different with respect for > > > the love they have both for their distribution and their company; it > > > shines through in the product that they produce. If we want to preserve > > > this corporate identity in our marketplace, and continue to enjoy the > > > Mandrake releases, then I personally believe it's time for those of us > > > that care enough to show our support for Mandrake by joining the club. > > > > > > At one time, Windows sold for 200 US$ a copy. For that much money, you > > > could have a 3.3 year subscription to the Mandrake club. It's only 5$ a > > > month; less than the cost of alot of magazine subscriptions. > > > > > > See: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/mdkfuture.php3 > > > > > > > It seems Mandrake is coming into a financially rough stretch. From their > > > > announcement: > > > > > > > > "Even though all of us here at MandrakeSoft are excited about the upcoming > > > > release, we've also been distracted by financial concerns. Despite > > > > continuous good reviews in the press; despite having millions of users > > > > throughout the world; despite producing an award-winning Linux distribution > > > > that is a solid competitor to both UNIX and Window$, the Mandrake Linux > > > > distribution's short-term future is in jeopardy due to a simple factor: > > > > money." > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > >
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