On Tuesday 02 September 2003 08:09 pm, David Rankin wrote: > Well, you're right about there being something suspicious about the way XP > does business. Browsing win98 clients is just slow as sh.... you know. > That's even after the registry tweaks that are supposed to fix the browse > problem. Secondly, MS crippled XP to allow no more than 5 simo network > connections rendering it useless as an impromptu file server. I have XP pro > at home, but it is also on the same box as linux rendering it useless to > test the file transfer issue. There is an answer > somewhere...............and let me know when you find out what it is. > Unfortunately with 2 young children, my wife working on her doctorate and both of us working full time jobs, it will be one of those things that will probably get solved by some clever fellows out there, but I am going to send this trace to a real sharp engineer and see if he can decode it more than my limited abilities. I'll let everyone know if he figures it out.
I can say it only encourages me more to complete the transformation away from uncle billie and his gang of thieves. <G> I know... I make good money fixing their s#$t, and we will probaby never be 'rid' of them but.... I ended up setting up two physical boxes (I hate the slow herky jerky of VMware) with a KVM switch. I can switch back and forth between XP and Mdk. I really appreciate everyones ideas. Maybe a microsoft engineer will pop in here an decode this mystery for us. hahahah > -- > David C. Rankin > Rankin * Bertin, PLLC > 510 Ochiltree Street > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > (936) 715-9333 > (936) 715-9339 fax > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:32 PM > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:23 pm, David Rankin wrote: > > > Lorne > > > > > > You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet > > > fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to > > pull > > > > out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation > > of > > > > smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS > > for > > > > XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The > > > site I posted earlier but can't find now, the "ubhix...." something > > > like that suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that. > > > > I've been suspicious of a change in the way XP does business, but can't > > put my > > > finger on it. I may take my traces to an Extreme engineer and see if he > > can > > > lay his finger on it. > > > > > I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it > > sounds > > > > identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits. > > > > > > Another site that looks promising is > > > http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket > > > Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the > > > fragmentation issue by follow the test specified. > > > > I am not seeing fragmentation in the trace. It does do things slightly > > differently, but I've had a hard time really dissecting it today. I'm > > going > > > to read and tinker with the above suggestions I think. For now, I'll just > > have to transfer from linux to xp. I use my mdk box more often anyhow. :) > > I have the bigger drives in the XP box. Guess I'll just use the XP box > > for storage. hahaha > > > > > Good luck. > > > > > > -- > > > David C. Rankin > > > Rankin * Bertin, PLLC > > > 510 Ochiltree Street > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > > > (936) 715-9333 > > > (936) 715-9339 fax > > > > > > For those in Texas - Vote NO to prop 12 on September 13th. They're your > > > constitutional rights. You can either vote NO to keep them or vote yes > > (or > > > > do nothing) and let the insurers and HMO's take them away in the name > > > of corporate greed. Your choice. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` > > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote: > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote: > > > > > > > See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157 > > > > > > > > I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little > > executable > > > > that > > > > > > > did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the > > > > > > registry > > > > > > > to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the > > window > > > > size > > > > > > > to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good > > news. > > > > The > > > > > > > bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds > > to > > > > copy > > > > > > > an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It > > went > > > > too > > > > > > > quickly. > > > > > > > > > > What is odd about this web site is that even though it says > > > > > > 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP > > doesn't > > > > > > > have those > > > > > > key > > > > > > > > > settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference > > to > > > > > > > window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd. > > > > > > > > > > OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. > > > > > > > RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC > > > > > > > 510 Ochiltree Street > > > > > > > Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 > > > > > > > (936) 715-9333 > > > > > > > (936) 715-9339 fax > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "lorne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP` > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Okay, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both > > > > > > ways. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > even analyzed it yet, but.... there is 25% more frames > > > > > > > > > total (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow > > > > > > > > > than the > > > > > > fast! > > > > > > > > > > > > Not sure yet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > else I'll dig up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further > > > > > > > > dug up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fast transfer uses about > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > protocols > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nbss 1/4+ total > > > > > > > > smb 1/4- total > > > > > > > > tcp 1/2 total > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slow transfers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > nbss 5/8 total > > > > > > > > smb 1/16 total > > > > > > > > tcp 1/3? total > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately > > some > > > > > > > > differences. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow > > > > > > > > transfer > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > XP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > window > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > size of 10220. 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