--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Let me get this right:
> 
> MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW)
> with coronary artery 
> disease, status post myocardial infarction, and a
> very paranoid 
> megalomaniac after world power who steals money from
> the dying and 
> dead? Oh yeah he also uses western medicine while
> telling others to 
> avoid it.
> 
> Now, please correct me if I am wrong here, I thought
> enlightened 
> physiology meant perfect health? Isn't CAD a stress
> related disease? 
> Repeated studies independent of the TMO has shown
> that a radical 
> vegetarian diet and meditation, properly done,
> reverses CAD. What's 
> wrong with this picture?
> 
> What's the obvious conclusion here?

The conclusion is that MMY is a profound paradox. If I
didn't have the experiences I've had around him and
through his techniques I would dismiss him as a fraud.
Also many great spiritual beings die and suffer from
rather mundane maladies. I think this perfect health
thing is incorrect.
-Peter





> 
> 
> On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:36 PM, anonymousff wrote:
> 
> >
> > Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after
> he had dinner with
> > Dr. Mahapatra
> >
> > --------
> >
> > He says he was M's personal physician from about
> 87 to 91. His English
> > was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to
> relay some of the
> > interesting things he said.
> >
> > After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him
> as one of the people
> > in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them
> pundits...). At some
> > point M's family told M that they didn't like what
> was going on with
> > the big group (I don't have any details) and M
> dismantled the whole
> > thing sending all the boys home to all the
> families consternation.
> > Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which
> sounded like about
> > 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable
> dealing with all the boys
> > families during that time.
> >
> > Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in
> Noida, India and M was
> > rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He
> had pancreitis
> > (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain
> killer and a sedative. M
> > eventually went to England for 6 months or so for
> treatment for this.
> > M is diabetic and his family has a history of
> diabetes. I wonder if
> > his high sugar intake had anything to do with it?
> When in England
> > everything was kept very secret. When some
> reporters heard he was at a
> > particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to
> another location.
> > During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't
> get much of the
> > details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did
> have angeoplasty at a
> > hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and
> western hospitals while
> > promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M
> has good days and bad
> > days and has variety of health problems. He stays
> out of view on the
> > bad days.
> >
> > Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power,
> (we're all surprised).
> > He says the only ones M trusts are his family
> members, who he gives
> > untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA
> and is really
> > paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood
> of M's relatives to
> > see if someone was trying to poison them. He says
> M's family members
> > are not all good people or ethical people and that
> they have undue
> > influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any
> stories of M with 
> > women.
> >
> > Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who
> told him that all the
> > problems started one time when Deepak had to leave
> M and M wanted him
> > to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking
> engagements for
> > thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M
> said he heard that
> > Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said
> he always promoted
> > M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious
> and things broke
> > down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too
> popular in the
> > movement or has too much of a following M cans
> them.
> >
> > Patra said when they had the clinic for the very
> seriously ill at
> > Noida that M would promise them all healing. With
> severe cases the
> > Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so
> much. Patra was
> > trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew
> would die. M would
> > promise them healing, then they would die. M would
> send out his people
> > to collect the huge bills from the bereaved
> families after the people
> > had died. He said he found that very upsetting.
> >
> > Patra said when he first started seeing M, M
> wanted him to work for
> > the movement. He told Patra to not go back to
> hospitals anymore. Patra
> > was about to get married and go into practice, but
> because of what M
> > said he didn't. M told him the movement would
> support him and have a
> > bank account he could draw on. He was to have 2
> cooks an 2
> > secretaries. None of that materialized and he was
> given no money. Now
> > he is in the US, can't pass the medical exams
> which he could have
> > passed many years ago, and he is taking business
> courses. He does
> > yagyas full time for Ralph Taylor, and has a group
> of 60 boys in India
> > doing yagyas for Ralph.
> 
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