1. How one who is U.C can not be realistic?
2. On what basis one who has fragmented reality decide if something 
is "realistic"?
3. Where is my darn coffee?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> The obvious conclusion is that MMY is a dreamer, but not very 
realiztic.
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Vaj 
>   To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:32 AM
>   Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
> 
> 
>   Let me get this right:
> 
>   MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW) with coronary 
artery 
>   disease, status post myocardial infarction, and a very paranoid 
>   megalomaniac after world power who steals money from the dying 
and 
>   dead? Oh yeah he also uses western medicine while telling others 
to 
>   avoid it.
> 
>   Now, please correct me if I am wrong here, I thought enlightened 
>   physiology meant perfect health? Isn't CAD a stress related 
disease? 
>   Repeated studies independent of the TMO has shown that a radical 
>   vegetarian diet and meditation, properly done, reverses CAD. 
What's 
>   wrong with this picture?
> 
>   What's the obvious conclusion here?
> 
> 
>   On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:36 PM, anonymousff wrote:
> 
>   >
>   > Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had 
dinner with
>   > Dr. Mahapatra
>   >
>   > --------
>   >
>   > He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His 
English
>   > was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some 
of the
>   > interesting things he said.
>   >
>   > After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the 
people
>   > in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At 
some
>   > point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on 
with
>   > the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the 
whole
>   > thing sending all the boys home to all the families 
consternation.
>   > Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like 
about
>   > 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all 
the boys
>   > families during that time.
>   >
>   > Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and 
M was
>   > rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had 
pancreitis
>   > (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a 
sedative. M
>   > eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for 
this.
>   > M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I 
wonder if
>   > his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in 
England
>   > everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he 
was at a
>   > particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another 
location.
>   > During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of 
the
>   > details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have 
angeoplasty at a
>   > hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals 
while
>   > promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days 
and bad
>   > days and has variety of health problems. He stays out of view 
on the
>   > bad days.
>   >
>   > Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power, (we're all 
surprised).
>   > He says the only ones M trusts are his family members, who he 
gives
>   > untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA and is really
>   > paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood of M's 
relatives to
>   > see if someone was trying to poison them. He says M's family 
members
>   > are not all good people or ethical people and that they have 
undue
>   > influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any stories of M 
with 
>   > women.
>   >
>   > Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who told him that 
all the
>   > problems started one time when Deepak had to leave M and M 
wanted him
>   > to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking engagements for
>   > thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M said he 
heard that
>   > Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said he always 
promoted
>   > M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious and things 
broke
>   > down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too popular in the
>   > movement or has too much of a following M cans them.
>   >
>   > Patra said when they had the clinic for the very seriously ill 
at
>   > Noida that M would promise them all healing. With severe cases 
the
>   > Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so much. Patra was
>   > trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew would die. M 
would
>   > promise them healing, then they would die. M would send out his 
people
>   > to collect the huge bills from the bereaved families after the 
people
>   > had died. He said he found that very upsetting.
>   >
>   > Patra said when he first started seeing M, M wanted him to work 
for
>   > the movement. He told Patra to not go back to hospitals 
anymore. Patra
>   > was about to get married and go into practice, but because of 
what M
>   > said he didn't. M told him the movement would support him and 
have a
>   > bank account he could draw on. He was to have 2 cooks an 2
>   > secretaries. None of that materialized and he was given no 
money. Now
>   > he is in the US, can't pass the medical exams which he could 
have
>   > passed many years ago, and he is taking business courses. He 
does
>   > yagyas full time for Ralph Taylor, and has a group of 60 boys 
in India
>   > doing yagyas for Ralph.
> 
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