On May 1, 2005, at 5:53 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > on 4/30/05 10:57 PM, Rick Archer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> I just sent the following to Conny and will post his response: >>
Dear Rick: Thanks for posting this last message. It could help people move on. I'd like to share this, from recent message elsewhere: That the standard text for attainment of Cosmic Consciousness of the Holy Shankaracharya Order mentions the first three verses of pada three and deliberately excludes all siddhi formulae indicating that if you are interested in enlightenment, rather than yogic attainments, then the siddhi formulae are to be specifically left out. The reason? The siddhi formulae will create more vasanas rather than eliminating them. Also they introduce form, when habits of form must be transcended for true enlightenment to dawn. from the third prakarana of Knowledge of Cosmic Consciousness, "The Elimination of the Mind" (tritiiyaM manonaasaprakaraNaM) 41. Even though Patanjali detailed in many ways the samadhis-with-conceptualization and with-distinctions—having as their object the effects of elements, elements, subtle elements, the senses, and egotism—nevertheless, we take no notice of them because, by being the cause of supernatural powers such as invisibility and the like, they oppose samadhi, which is the cause of liberation. 42. In the same vein Patanjali gives this sutra: In enstasis they are obstacles; in coming out (from samadhi) (vyutthaana) they are supernatural powers. [YS 3.38] 43. And: When there is an invitation from highly placed ones, one should not feel attachment or pride because they may lead to undesirable conditions. [YS 3.51] The "highly placed ones" are the gods. The story is told that Uddaalaka, though invited by the gods, snubbed the gods and cultivated only samadhi-without-distinctions. [LYV 5.6.125–137] 44. We also gather the very same thing from this dialogue: Sri Rama: Why is it, O best of Knowers-of-the-Self, that we do not see such powers as the ability to fly through the air among the bodies of those in Cosmic Consciousness? [LYV 5.10.1] 45. Vasisthha: O Raghava, even one who does not know the Self and is not liberated acquires the trick (yukti) of roaming about the clouds and the like through the use of elixirs, formulae, rites, and time. [LYV 5.10.2] 46. This concern does not belong to the Knower-of-the-Self, for the Knower-of-the-Self sees only the Self. Satisfied by himself in himself, he does not run after ignorance. [LYV 5.10.3] 47. Any worldly things whatsoever, the wise know them to be fashioned by ignorance. How could a Self-knower who has abandoned ignorance possibly plunge into these things? [LYV 5.10.5] 48. The powers of elixirs, formulae, rites, and time are effective for bestowing supernatural abilities, but none of these help in attaining the state of the highest Self. [LYV 5.10.7] 49. The attainment of the Self arises when the web of all desires comes to an end. How could a mind immersed in the pursuit of supernatural abilities attain that? [LYV 5.10.9] 50. None of these worldly things attract the knower of truth, as ordinary village women do not attract the courtly gentleman who is in love with a refined courtesan. [LYV 4.5.34] 51. The man liberated-in-life does not show amazement even when the sun emits cool rays or when the orb of the moon is hot or when a fire shoots downward. [LYV 5.9.66] And: 52. Curiosity in these sorts of wonders does not arise for him because he knows that these powers thus appear in the world from the highest Self. [LYV 5.9.67] 53. But Samadhi-with-conceptualization whose object is the Self is the cause both of the eradication of latent tendencies (vasanas) and the Samadhi-of-suppression. Therefore we have given it (rather than supernatural powers) serious attention here. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/