On May 2, 2005, at 8:58 AM, Patrick Gillam wrote: > but is it also your experience > that the TM-Siddhi program created vasanas, > rather than eliminated them? If yes, how could > you tell? > > Thanks. >
Hi Patrick: One tell tale sign is 'are the kleshas dissolving'--is your mind-stream less afflicted? Esp. negative emotions, are they still there or are they diminished or are they getting worse? The short answer is you observe yourself. If we're not taught how to observe ourselves, we won't normally do this. What would you look for? Not just enhancement of your already existing good qualities, good habits and good disposition but the actual root of the negative vasanas (as there are desirable ones and undesirable ones). The true problem is that negative vasanas by there very nature will cause one to stop looking for causes and effects regarding them (!) often because of a particular bhava or "mood" or "feeling-tone". This is the reason correct sadhana and View are essential. My strong experience was that the siddhi program produced these feeling-tones. This is the very mask of the vasanas. These feeling tones can mask as pleasurable feeling-tones. Then reattachment begins at a subtle level. Once I had some recognition of this, a sense of deep suffering would immediately arise, then evaporate. There was a recognition that samsara was being created and observed, thus this deep sense of suffering at the instant of recognition. Later there was the simultaneous arising of loathing for all of samsara. At that instant (of recognition of loathing of samsara) then and there I lost any desire to perform the siddhis ever again. Vasana comes from the root "vas" which means to dwell, reside, stay, and exist, be found in; and to scent, perfume, incense, fumigate, make fragrant, to steep, infuse, and to spice, season. This describes the precise quality of the vasanas--an infused feeling-tone which permeates ones beings and you grab at it--you love the smell, the feel and the feeling and totally miss what lies beneath. We end up mistaking karmic deodorant for vasanas. Since positive vasanas feel even better, they can be mis-discriminated as "bliss" IMO. Some people seem to experience this as the siddhis just not making them feel well. -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
