Barry writes in his summary: So have a go at it, eh? And if you are able to come up with some statement -- any statement -- that is true for all beings, in all periods of time, in all contexts, and when viewed from all states of consciousness, *then* come back and tell me how accurate you believe the words of the supposedly enlightened are when describing what it's like. I'll wait.
Tom T: You have now *got* the Byron Katie system down pat. Her questions lead one to the conclusion you are asking those here to come to. Awesome!. Tom