From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nablusoss1008 Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 2:19 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: [examma] Re: Facts & Evidence (MORE LINKS)
--- In HYPERLINK "mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com"FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I doubt whether anyone on this list will react much to this. If it had > been a report connected with any Maharishi operation, the posts would > have gone on for days about how corrupt and evil the TM movement is. > But Amma is likely to get a pass from those here who reserve their > most virulent hatred for one who was originally their benefactor. > Strange, isn't it? Indeed. From Rick Archer et al there is only thundering silence when it comes to "truths" about Amma. (Which I question by the way) The gossip, outright lies and rumours are reserved for the Movement. It's called double standards or hypocrecy. It is backfireing on him now. Largely a matter of time, Nabsters. Too little of it to spend much on FFL. The examma group (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/examma/) where Bronte is getting this stuff is for folks who just want to wallow around in their own muck. That group states in its description that “Devotee rebuttals” are not permitted. It adds that “This group is tightly moderated to maintain a safe, nurturing environment for expression and discussion,” which means that anyone attempting to rebut the accusations made there will have their posts deleted. A more balanced group is HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone"http://groups.yahoo. com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone, where criticisms are welcome, but open discussion is allowed. Bronte might want to consider posting her stuff there. Like any enlightened person, Amma is both human and cosmic. Your humanness doesn’t disappear when your cosmic nature dawns. When I criticize things MMY has done, it doesn’t mean I don’t regard him as a mahatma. Like MMY, Amma has health problems, although her organization doesn’t try to hide them. She has diabetes, is somewhat overweight, has diminished lung capacity from a bout of viral pneumonia she got several years ago, and is in a lot of pain from the repetitive motion of hugging millions of people. She also has a human personality. Her formal education ended in the 4th grade when her parents took her out of school to become a family servant. So she’s not a refined, education Indian woman like, say, Karunamayi. She’s of a low caste and grew up in a fishing village, so her language is sometimes coarse. She’s known to have a fiery temper, although I’ve never seen it displayed in my 8 years of visiting her. Her favorite movie is “Beethoven,” about the St. Bernard dog, and when she can, she watches an Indian soap opera in which a devotee stars. Regarding accusations of corruption in her organization, there’s a lot of corruption in India. The police and politicians are always on the take. Amma has a large organization with a lot of money flowing through it and she puts a lot of time and attention into making sure that the money is handled responsibly. I’m sure there have been instances where it hasn’t been, but she does what she can to prevent those. There have been suicides in her ashram. Anyone is welcome there. Thousands live there and 10’s of thousands come and go. On several occasions, unstable people have taken their lives. The rumors of some fanatical devotees in New Delhi roughing up some people who wanted to take down their Amma signs may be true for all I know. You’ll find fanatics in any organization, but on the whole, I have found the quality of the people around Amma, especially those closest to her, to be exemplary. Weigh all the dirt you can find with the good that is done: HYPERLINK "http://amma.org/humanitarian-activities/index.html"http://amma.org/humanita rian-activities/index.html. Anyway, I’m not the most qualified Amma defender. I just go see her a couple of times a year, and have never been to her ashram in India. People are welcome to post what they like here, but those who really want to get into a serious discussion would probably do best to start it in HYPERLINK "http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone"http://groups.yahoo. com/group/ammachi_free_speech_zone, where they will find people much better informed than I, both pro- and anti-Amma. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1095 - Release Date: 10/26/2007 7:54 PM
