--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Dec 13, 2007, at 5:54 AM, t3rinity wrote: > > > Vaj or one of his friends expressed, that Samyama is not restricted to > > Siddhis, and that this was refereing to a higher technique to attain > > Samadhi. So I looked up in the commentary of Vyasa, and found that he > > said that beginners should practise not the higher Forms of Samyama, > > but should start with the lower forms - the Siddhis. (The Siddhis were > > also called lower forms of attainmenment) > > > I thought that the gudhartha-dipika specifically stated samyama on > atma (atma-samyama).
No, it didn't. No mention of Atma in the translation I have. Referring to verse 21. > You seem to be changing that message-- No. > but if > you have a quote or a verse I'd like to hear it. 21 But because of disturbances created by the results of actions that have started bearing fruit (prarabdha), vasana (past impressions) does not get destroyed. That is eliminated through samyama, the strongest of all (the disciplines). 22. The five disciplines, viz yama (restraint) etc. (P.Y.Su 2.29) practised before become conducive to that samyama which is a triad consisting of dharana, dhyan and samadhi (see ibid. 3.1.4) 23. However, absorption (samadhi) is quickly accomplished through special devotion to God. From that follows mano-nasa (elimination of the modifications of the mind) and vasana-ksaya (dissipation of past impressions.) 24. Knowledge of Reality (tattva-jnana), elimination of the modifications of the mind (mano-nasa), as also the dissipation of past impressions (vasana-ksaya) - when these three are practised together, Liberation while still being alive (Jivanmukti) becomes firm
