Sucking on Krishna's toes? Oh man, do tell! --- nadarrombus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> you are right about this. on the ia course when > maharishi was looking > for experiences i think he just wanted the group to > affirm that > nothing was needed but self refferal. he said he was > looking for the > nothing experience. instead people gave him weird > stuff like sucking > krishnas toe or bubbles of veda. god the ladies > would go on about > their feelings like crazy and he would just say > continue with the > rounding. we need to reject the chance that this > thing will turn into > buddhism or worse. the buddhas last words were dont > worship me, dont > follow me, dont make statues of me... look what > happened to it. > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "The Secret" > <L.Shaddai@> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "shempmcgurk" <shempmcgurk@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "curtisdeltablues" > > > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I think we can all safely just toss the > Collected Papers now, > > > don't > ya > > > > > think? No more need to pretend... > > > > > > > > > > The religion of Guru Devism is born. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's only 11 days since Maharishi gave up > control of and > > management > > > > of the TMO and the clowns -- I mean the Rajas > -- that have taken > > over > > > > have, as Curtis has indicated, already gone > the extra mile to > > > > solidify the "religious" nature of the > Movement. > > > > > > > > This supports the theory that I have presented > on this forum from > > > > time to time: that Maharishi abandoned the "TM > is not a religion > > or > > > > philosophy" tenet of the TM Program because he > was badgered to do > > so > > > > by the sycophants that have surrounded him for > the past 35 years. > > And > > > > now those very sychophants have become the > gate-keepers. > > > > > > > > They wore the poor man down by continually > demanding that he give > > > > them the "real" knowledge despite his > continual admonitions that > > the > > > > TM technique was the full and complete > program. Well, Maharishi > > may > > > > be enlightened but he is only human. And at > some point he threw > > his > > > > hands up and said: "Okay, if you want 'the > real knowledge' I > > guess > > > > that's what I have to GIVE you." So now we've > got THIS > > catastrophy on > > > > our hands: Rajas, tinfoil hats, Vedic peanut > butter, etc. > > > > > > > > Well, the inmates have got the reigns of the > ship now and, > > presto!, > > > > we're prostrating once a day for the next > month. > > > > > > > > Abraham? Can you please bring Isaac over to > the alter? Yeah, > > and > > > > bring some of those briquettes, too, while > you're at it... > > > > > > > > > > Man, I'm in a mood to laugh, laugh, laugh. > Thank you. I haven't > > had > > > such belly laughs in years. > > > > > > But let me try to understand your arguments. > You're saying that > > > Maharishi did not have a hidden agenda of using > the West to awaken > > the > > > East, of spreading Maharishi brand Hinduism > throughout the world? > > > > > > > > > > Yes, he had an agenda but, no, it wasn't hidden. > He told us quite > > explicitly what he was doing by packaging TM as a > non-denominational, > > non-belief, non-religious program. > > > > And, no, I truly believe it wasn't a case of him > thinking: TM is part > > of the Hindu religion and, therefore, I have to > disguise it in order > > for the suckers of the West to buy into it. To > him, TM was very much > > a universal thing that was separate and apart from > his own personal > > Hinduism and could, on its own, stand apart from > the trappings of > > religion. And it was with that very worldview > that he packaged TM > > and, successfully, brought it into the world. > > > > And that's how things were progressing until about > 1977-9 when things > > started falling apart, largely from his own doing. > And I refer to an > > abandonment of the above described universal > non-religious approach. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This of course runs counter to the way it was > explained to us wide > > > eyed children: that Maharishi was giving us > what we needed at the > > > time and or that our raising the world's > consciousness allowed the > > > Maha Rishi to cognize more and more of the Vedic > truth, or as I > > always > > > believed, to pull all of this shit out of his > ass. > > > > > > > > > > I don't know who was explaining all this to you or > whether it was > > done in some official capacity. But I can tell > you what I was taught > > as both a meditator who learned TM from the 7-step > program and as a > > teacher in Teacher Training and that was that the > TM Program was (1) > > not a religion; (2) not a philosophy or belief; > and (3) the > > organisation taking on the responsibility of > disseminating this > > knowledge would itself embody those very > principles (because to do > > otherwise would be to stop being universal and > therefore alienate > > some potential practitioners of TM). > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. BM doesn't > > > just have those funny initials for nothing. Of > course we've read > > > which group of great seers and Shankaracharias > granted him the title > > > he scribbled on that stationary in London. Let > me speak a bit more > > > sweetly and say that he pulled that one out of > the air as well. > > > > > > I don't quite get your problem with this > becoming a religion. > > > > > > > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ