Ruth wrote:
> So, you would rather have 47 million people uninsured?
>
No, I would rather have universal employment, so that 
everyone could afford their own medical care. 

> And it isn't the old people that are uninsured, it a 
> mix of people.
>
Old people are already insured through Medicare, Medicaid 
and the drug prescription plan passed by Congress. Many old 
people already have a medical plan carried over from the 
previous employer when they retired.

> For example, young people with jobs that don't offer 
> insurance or the insurance costs too much.  They feel 
> bullet proof and go without.  
>
That's my point - young people don't need medical care 
because they're not sick and they hardly ever get hurt in 
accidents. My question was, why should the young people 
have to pay for medical care for old people? Are you 
suggesting that the government force the young people to 
pay? If so, that could cause a riot. Hillary Clinton 
suggested that the government garnish the wages of those 
young people who resist paying. Is that fair?

> Some will have accidents. Some will get cancer. They 
> are screwed.
>
You want to see screwed? A government-run universal 
health care system. The U.S. Goverment can't even secure 
the nation's borders and you want the young people who 
were born here to pay for the medical care of the illegal 
aliens? The U.S. Government could't even prevent an attack 
on the World Trade Center. It has already been established 
that the government got us into a quagmire in Afghanistan 
and Iraq. The U.S. Government can't even take care of it's 
own wounded soldiers! The U.S. Government brought on a 
crises in the present Medicare system; lost a war in 
Vietnam; failed to prevent North Korea, Pakistan, India, 
and Iran from getting nuclear weapons. What makes you 
think the U.S. Goverment could run a medical care system?  

> Some will get treated anyway, but because they are 
> judgment proof the health care providers eat the cost 
> and pass it along to everyone else.  The problem is 
> that people can't say they don't need health insurance 
> because they are healthy.  Health is not something that 
> is a matter of personal control.  Sure you can live a 
> healthy life, but you still can get cancer, be born with 
> diabetes or other chronic illness, or have an accident.  
> I personally have seen far too many of those young healthy 
> people who suddenly are not healthy any more and cannot 
> get health insurance at any price.
>
Sure, there are going to be some people who need help - 
that's where charity comes in. But you are going to have a
failed plan if you try to make all the young people pay to
take care of all the older people, many of whom failed to 
take care of themselves. Yes, there are those who get sick 
and we should not judge them, however there are many 
respondents here who would agree that people don't eat 
right, don't exercise, and refuse to work. Why should I
be forced to take care of them?

I've got a simple plan for young people:

1. Finish school and get a degree.
2. Get a good job with benefits and save some money.
3. Don't get married until at least 22 years old.
4. Don't have any children until you're 35 years old.
5. Have only 2 children, with at least 5 years between sibs.

Country will grow!

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